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Introducing 1Password for Teams

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Re: Introducing 1Password for Teams

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Post by AGRob »

dijit wrote: post #56
AGRob wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Currently read-only, yes, but it will eventually offer read and write ability. Rob AgileBits

"eventually" doesn't allow me to use it now though, unfortunately. I don't mean to sound petulant but I do own 1password on two devices and it's really frustrating to have no reasonable ability to use it on my main workstations at home or at work.

Remember this is all still in beta. Adding support for editing items within 1Password for Teams is definitely on the must-do list. It's not one of those "we'll see how it goes and maybe we'll add it" features. :)

Rob

AgileBits

Re: Introducing 1Password for Teams

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Post by tptacek »

jpgoldberg wrote: post #51
Titanous wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the answer! WebCrypto is obviously a disaster, it is very unfortunate that new systems are being stuck with legacy crypto if they use it instead of non-native libraries.

I think that there are three issues with WebCrypto that people often conflate. But they need to be looked at separately when judging the security of any particular things. 1. Limited algorithms. This is what has use using GCM instead of a stream cipher for our transport layer. 2. It allows developers to shoot themselves in the foot by not enforcing best practices. 3. It encourages crypto delivered over the web. If (3…

(2) is not true of misuse-resistant crypto primitives and libraries, which is kind of the point of Nacl.

Re: Introducing 1Password for Teams

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Post by jen20 »

dijit wrote: post #56
AGRob wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Currently read-only, yes, but it will eventually offer read and write ability. Rob AgileBits

"eventually" doesn't allow me to use it now though, unfortunately. I don't mean to sound petulant but I do own 1password on two devices and it's really frustrating to have no reasonable ability to use it on my main workstations at home or at work.

I know this isn't a complete solution, but 1Password for Windows runs OK under Wine, and with some registry tweaks as the browser plugins work OK too. The exact details are documented here: https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/42126/making-1p...

I verified this afternoon that this works with Ubuntu 15.10.

Re: Introducing 1Password for Teams

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Post by AGRob »

iosys wrote: post #60

They can't seem to fix a simple bug that prevents the mini 1password menu from not being behind the menubar. Really pathetic or maybe its fixed now hopefully. Please FIX OMG

Hey, thanks for the feedback. I'm not sure I know which issue you're referring to. I've not seen the menu show up behind the menu bar. Could you follow up with us on our forum? https://discussions.agilebits.com

Rob

AgileBits

Re: Introducing 1Password for Teams

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Post by awakeasleep »

steeef wrote: post #52
conorgil145 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it an issue that LastPass was sold to LogMeIn? Does that company have a bad reputation, or...? This is a serious question. I am not familiar with LogMeIn.

LogMeIn has a history of buying useful products and then raising prices on them without much warning. I was a faithful customer of Hamachi until LogMeIn purchased them, upped the price, and then tried to lock me in to a subscription.

If anyone doesn't know enough to put comments like this in context,

Hamachi was a free VPN service most commonly used by gamers. LogMeIn bought Hamachi, and turned it into a paid service, earning the eternal hate of the gaming community.

None of these aspersions are worth considering if you're thinking about enterprise software.

Re: Introducing 1Password for Teams

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Post by jforman »

tw04 wrote: post #25

Interesting - lack of active directory integration, and lack of on-prem solution is disappointing though. Edit: since someone is apparently upset over my comment - those two features are absolutely mandatory in almost all corporate environments. If you have a comment to the contrary, feel free to share it. Don't just downvote my comment because you don't personally need the features.

Baby steps to taking on Okta et al. They're going up market with this launch — doesn't seem wise to jump too far at once.

Re: Introducing 1Password for Teams

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Post by jmuguy »

conorgil145 wrote: post #34
codycowan wrote: post #2

With the sale of Lastpass to LogMeIn, more excited than ever for 1Password to add team features

Why is it an issue that LastPass was sold to LogMeIn? Does that company have a bad reputation, or...? This is a serious question. I am not familiar with LogMeIn.

I'll repost what I commented on the LastPass sale. LMI basically just skirts by, doing just enough not to drive their users away -

"A lot of folks only have experience with Logmein from the horrible way they handled transitioning users from the free to paid service.

My company has used Logmein Central for remote access to hundreds of PCs for years. The core software is great, reliable, and has been ever since we started using it.

The problem is that Logmein the company knows they're on top of the heap when it comes to remote management. They have no reason to innovate or improve where they can.

They added 2FA but otherwise we haven't seen a single new feature that we've taken advantage of in a very long time. Any features they do add hint at them wanting to be a RMM service but you'd have to be an idiot to trust them with more responsibility of your networks. Also a lot of those features require Logmein Pro which adds an insane amount of cost depending on how many systems you're managing.

Meanwhile there are bugs that have been around literally since we started using the software. For instance copy/paste while in a session will randomly break. The Logmein client software is very buggy on OSX, crashes often, search will randomly break. Their support is basically non-existent, although I haven't tried in a while if you opened a ticket it would take days if not longer for a response and they'd usually just direct you to some unrelated KB or tell you post on the forums.

We use Lastpass as well so this should be interesting. I've yet to see a merger that actually improved things from our end as a MSP. Cisco bought Meraki, Dell bought SonicWALL, at this point I assume any time we see a merger that its time to find a new vendor."

Re: Introducing 1Password for Teams

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Post by shostack »

awakeasleep wrote: post #65
steeef wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LogMeIn has a history of buying useful products and then raising prices on them without much warning. I was a faithful customer of Hamachi until LogMeIn purchased them, upped the price, and then tried to lock me in to a subscription.

If anyone doesn't know enough to put comments like this in context, Hamachi was a free VPN service most commonly used by gamers. LogMeIn bought Hamachi, and turned it into a paid service, earning the eternal hate of the gaming community. None of these aspersions are worth considering if you're thinking about enterprise software.

Out of curiosity--have they been successful with this strategy?

I'm guessing there's some short term revenue gains, and maybe some initial fallout. But the question still stands of whether this works long term. A lot of companies underprice their offering, so this could very well work and an acquisition seems like an ideal time to raise prices while promising more down the line.

Re: Introducing 1Password for Teams

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Post by jmuguy »

Maybe I'll be the only 1Password fanboy in here. I use 1pw personally and LastPass for work (shared between team of a dozen or so technicians).

To compare the two - 1pw is basically one of my favorite programs. LastPass is um... adequate? We have a lot of items in our LastPass vault and anytime we search it, add or change an item there is a 5-10 second lag. This according to LastPass support is unavoidable. Something to do with each item being individually encrypted/decrypted each time.

In anycase if 1Password for Teams is half as good 1Password I assume it will blow LastPass out of the water. And my experience with the Agilebits team gives me confidence that they'll work on actually improving the product instead of just looking for an exit.

Re: Introducing 1Password for Teams

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Post by signal11 »

AGKyle wrote: post #43
tw04 wrote: post #25

Interesting - lack of active directory integration, and lack of on-prem solution is disappointing though. Edit: since someone is apparently upset over my comment - those two features are absolutely mandatory in almost all corporate environments. If you have a comment to the contrary, feel free to share it. Don't just downvote my comment because you don't personally need the features.

Really don't want to see anyone get down voted here for having an opinion. Different opinions are what drive conversation, so, I won't ignore your concerns here. I'm not super big on the terminology, but I assume on-prem is on-premise, meaning you'd like to self-host. If I have that correct then unfortunately I can't promise anything here. I will most definitely pass this along to our team though so that they know th…

I realise you may not want to do Active Directory, however it is quite common even in small companies -- and you can even get AD via Azure nowadays. Even lots of Mac-only shops have AD.

Maybe v1.x doesn't need AD, however it's something the dev team should definitely consider for later versions. Beyond that, it's really upto AgileBits about how much of the large-corporate market they want to cater for (companies like Centrify seem to have found a niche there)

Thanks for listening.

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