Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale • Hacker News Board

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by cft » Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 2:38 AM UTC

WildUtah wrote: post #41

w4 wrote: post #3

That's a shame. Gravity looks like a clever app, and the UX in the reviewer video was pretty slick. The spoon + quarter calibration is great! This sort of thing is why I'm increasingly disinterested in developing for iOS for fun (and why most of my recent side project work has been on web apps). App review is effectively a black box since the rules are applied so inconsistently, and working for weeks or months on som…

App review is effectively a black box since the rules are applied so inconsistently, and working for weeks or months on something only to find out the Apple doesn't like it is a constant concern. Unless you're Facebook which has recently been caught abusing silent notifications to start up in the background and continue running permanently by streaming music at zero-volume while draining battery. Apple responds decen…

I do not understand why the parent gets downvoted so much. I think FB can do pretty much what they please. If Apple is concerned for any reason, Facebook can simply ask them: "Do you want the Facebook Apps in the App store or not?" I think the answer will be: Yes.

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by roosterjm2k2 » Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 2:43 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #24

w4 wrote: post #3

That's a shame. Gravity looks like a clever app, and the UX in the reviewer video was pretty slick. The spoon + quarter calibration is great! This sort of thing is why I'm increasingly disinterested in developing for iOS for fun (and why most of my recent side project work has been on web apps). App review is effectively a black box since the rules are applied so inconsistently, and working for weeks or months on som…

Apple's position is actually very easy to understand. Don't do anything that is likely to cause significant harm to them. Examples of this include: (a) negative press publicity e.g. porn app, drone strike app, (b) stealing from or harming their customers and of course (c) this app where they will have to cover the cost of you putting heavy objects on something that it was never designed to do. If you want to damage y…

I don't buy it. Where is the negative publicity on android? It doesn't exist... There are apps that many people find offensive on the play store... just like there are movies on amazon that some people would find offensive... same thing..

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by roosterjm2k2 » Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 2:43 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #24

w4 wrote: post #3

That's a shame. Gravity looks like a clever app, and the UX in the reviewer video was pretty slick. The spoon + quarter calibration is great! This sort of thing is why I'm increasingly disinterested in developing for iOS for fun (and why most of my recent side project work has been on web apps). App review is effectively a black box since the rules are applied so inconsistently, and working for weeks or months on som…

Apple's position is actually very easy to understand. Don't do anything that is likely to cause significant harm to them. Examples of this include: (a) negative press publicity e.g. porn app, drone strike app, (b) stealing from or harming their customers and of course (c) this app where they will have to cover the cost of you putting heavy objects on something that it was never designed to do. If you want to damage y…

I don't buy it. Where is the negative publicity on android? It doesn't exist... There are apps that many people find offensive on the play store... just like there are movies on amazon that some people would find offensive... same thing..

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by fpgeek » Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 2:45 AM UTC

adrusi wrote: post #58

I doubt that Apple's primary concern is people breaking their screens. It would actually be quite difficult to break your screen by putting heavy weights onto a spoon . No, Apple's concern is supporting this app to the future. They don't know if they'll be sticking with this same kind of sensor for future models, and they don't know that any future sensor will be backwards compatible for this app. If people get used…

Considering how frequently and heavily Apple pushes developers for other updates (e.g. new iOS version support, 64-bit support, etc.) I'd be shocked if future support were any consideration in the rejection. I'd expect Apple to be perfectly happy to deprecate and/or replace an API, allow changes in undefined behavior in future models and so on. If the app breaks, so be it.

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by bdamm » Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 2:47 AM UTC

dkokelley wrote: post #36

jack-r-abbit wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... and then carrying that scale around like you do a phone? Lots of things are being replaced by phones/apps because you always have your phone. Do you always have your scale?

While I personally can't recall a time when a scale-in-my-pocket would have measurably improved my life, I will concede that often capability leads utility. Maybe a future where everyone's phones are also reliable scales will fulfill needs we didn't know we had.

Such as reverting to gold for common currency.

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by fpgeek » Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 2:48 AM UTC

cft wrote: post #61

WildUtah wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

App review is effectively a black box since the rules are applied so inconsistently, and working for weeks or months on something only to find out the Apple doesn't like it is a constant concern. Unless you're Facebook which has recently been caught abusing silent notifications to start up in the background and continue running permanently by streaming music at zero-volume while draining battery. Apple responds decen…

I do not understand why the parent gets downvoted so much. I think FB can do pretty much what they please. If Apple is concerned for any reason, Facebook can simply ask them: "Do you want the Facebook Apps in the App store or not?" I think the answer will be: Yes.

By that standard, Amazon should be able to do pretty much what they please too, but we know they can't (see: in-app Kindle store / link to web store, etc.).

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by schrodinger » Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 2:50 AM UTC

jasonkostempski wrote: post #31

threeseed wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You already can decide that. You can build the app and deploy it your phone. Putting this app on the store however is an implicit endorsement of it.

For $99/yr. Edit: + the price of a Mac of some kind.

Nope, it's free now

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by vinbreau » Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 2:58 AM UTC

cguess wrote: post #26

Mikushi wrote: post #21

Clever idea and use of technology, not surprised to see Apple reject as they want nothing to do with either concepts. As a developer I will never develop for, support, condone or recommend Apple products to anyone I know because of such behaviour, they want a wall garden, good for them, but I'll have no active part in it.

Really really obvious reason they did this. People are dumb. Someone, probably very soon, and probably more than one or even ten people, would overload the weight and crack their screen. At which point they would show up at the Apple Store DEMANDING a brand new phone. When they didn't get the repair because they're too stupid to understand how glass works they would contact CNN or HuffPo or whatever and there'd be a…

I did Apple support from 2000-2010 and I find this is a ridiculous argument. Apple constantly gives out free phones. I've given a free iPhone (5th replacement) for a guy who dropped his phone at a construction site and it was run over by an industrial vehicle. I've given a free phone to a famous tennis start because she threw it across the room in a fit of rage. I denied tons of free iPhones to people affected by Aentennagate. I've given a third free iPhone to a loudmouthed lawyer who dropped it at a bar and then ran over it. People come into the Apple store every damn day demanding free iPhones and the truth is, if you are savvy enough, loud enough and endless enough you will get it. Whether or not people will show up demanding replacements is not a factor in their decision. Internally our policy was if it affects less than 10% of the user base, it's a non-issue to be dealt with on a case by case basis. If the person making the demands has any cultural, media or social weight, they get a free phone. If the person is being loud enough and you are seeing a no-win situation ahead, just give them a free phone. I can't see how this app would have caused either situation to occur.

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by msbarnett » Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 3:00 AM UTC

smokeyj wrote: post #49

msbarnett wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Companies should not be in the business of trying to enforce (clearly unenforceable) laws by removing features that do perfectly legal things. Dragon-dick dildos are legal , but that hardly means Wal-Mart is under any obligation to stock them for sale if that's not something they want their brand associated with. If Apple doesn't want their brand to be associated with racist apps, or pornography, or pony apps, or w…

Then why allow safari? There's so many scary things online, why would they endorse such things?

Because Dateline can't build a concern-trolling episode around "Are iPhones Youth-Corrupting Pornography Machines" when everything and your toaster has a web browser. Every criticism would equally apply to Android and your laptop. It's water off the brand's back.

But if Apple is literally taking money and distributing pornography, a news unit is shooting that story tomorrow.

Nintendo faces many of the same problems, e.g.) http://www.examiner.com/article/pedophiles-could-take-advant...

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by dmckeon » Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 3:03 AM UTC

Note that the 1944 90% silver Washington quarters pictured would weigh 6.25 grams each, while the 1965+ cupro-nickel sandwich quarters weigh 5.67g each.