The fundamental problem with patents is that it rewards the first person to file a patent, disregarding the possibility that two people can synchronously, or asynchronously come to the same idea independently of each other. I guess the "American" (assuming you're in America) course of action is to speak to your senator to push for reform and help evolve our government. If that fails, ditch the government altogether a…
U.S. patents go to the first inventor, regardless of filing order.
Almost a third of our portfolio is under attack by patent trolls.
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Re: Almost a third of our portfolio is under attack by patent trolls.
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
They discovered a horrible, systemic vulnerability and then patented most of the effective defenses for it. It's pure evil genius.
And that's why patents are broken.
RSA was patent-encumbered for a long time too. You can formulate a similar argument about that. "RSA makes systems safer [ed: no it doesn't, but continuing...], so it's wrong to allow it to be patented".
Re: Almost a third of our portfolio is under attack by patent trolls.
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Conventional wisdom says that pharma qualifies. Labs wouldn't spend the resources if anyone could come up with generic drugs once the hard work of finding out which drug works is done.
i don't know if this is true, but i heard somewhere that drug companies don't really innovate anything. it's the NIH and universities (via government funding) that actually discover the drugs, then they sell the exclusive rights to manufacture it to big pharma (who then spends a lot to get it approved and market it and such...) (this is the book, i haven't read it) http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Dec…
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080105140107.ht...
Re: Almost a third of our portfolio is under attack by patent trolls.
#64I'm a little cautious about this post. He is exaggerating by stretching the definition of "patent troll", if I am reading correctly. A true patent troll is a company that produces nothing except lawsuits. With a company that produces something and also sues over patents, there is at least the possibility of a countersuit / crosslicense / armed truce. I assume their portfolio companies pool their patents together for…
"With a company that produces something and also sues over patents, there is at least the possibility of a countersuit / crosslicense / armed truce." Unless you're a startup that just wants to make a good product and isn't interested in spending tens of thousands of dollars acquiring patents on software you think shouldn't even be patented in the first place. Then you have no defense. You also don't have the funds fo…
It's an interesting item but wrapped in self-serving omission and linkbaity style.
Re: Almost a third of our portfolio is under attack by patent trolls.
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
because a license might cost $1m, but going to court to fight it might cost $100m or more. It's a no-brainer whatever size you look at it. The win-lose equation here is about risk management: it's too risky for Microsoft, with an 'endless budget', to go against a troll. In this instance, Microsoft's attorneys risk alienation too by playing the chicken game, and they don't want to do that. How it could work is to find…
How it could work is to find a judge who thinks patent cases like this are ambulance chasers, and then ensure that all the suits against you are relocated into her court. If you have a friendly judge then it becomes much easier to play chicken. How exactly do you do this? I've been wondering. It seems trolls are able to get these cases heard in disproportionate numbers by a strange little puppet court down in east te…
Re: Almost a third of our portfolio is under attack by patent trolls.
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
The new Google phone's lack of software support for multi-touch is something which has come up recently.
people often cite patents as the reason for this (lack of multi-touch) but I don't think it's the real reason. For starters almost everyone else is using multi-touch, and from what I understand (I haven't any dev experience with Android) multi-touch support is built into the OS, just that the default apps don't use it
Re: Almost a third of our portfolio is under attack by patent trolls.
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
And that's why patents are broken.
Strong disagree. They found the vulnerability. It is a remarkably interesting attack. Without their work, we'd just be silently vulnerable to the problem. I think (for instance) the DPA patents are a decent example of good-faith patents. RSA was patent-encumbered for a long time too. You can formulate a similar argument about that. "RSA makes systems safer [ed: no it doesn't, but continuing...], so it's wrong to allo…
The step from (1) to (2) seems doubtful. If the CR people hadn't been able to patent a bunch of ways to deal with DPAs, they might none the less have published about them. It's not as if no one ever tells the world about a security vulnerability without a patent-based incentive.
The step from (2) to (3) seems doubtful. It seems more likely that without CR, sooner or later someone else would have thought of differential power attacks and published about them. Unless CR are just much much smarter than everyone else -- in which case, the guys in black hats would have been just as much worse off as the guys in white hats.
The step from (3) to (4) is OK, with the proviso I just mentioned: it seems that the obvious way for (3) to be true would tend to make the vulnerability matter much less.
Re: Almost a third of our portfolio is under attack by patent trolls.
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Conventional wisdom says that pharma qualifies. Labs wouldn't spend the resources if anyone could come up with generic drugs once the hard work of finding out which drug works is done.
i don't know if this is true, but i heard somewhere that drug companies don't really innovate anything. it's the NIH and universities (via government funding) that actually discover the drugs, then they sell the exclusive rights to manufacture it to big pharma (who then spends a lot to get it approved and market it and such...) (this is the book, i haven't read it) http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Dec…
Re: Almost a third of our portfolio is under attack by patent trolls.
#69The fundamental problem with patents is that it rewards the first person to file a patent, disregarding the possibility that two people can synchronously, or asynchronously come to the same idea independently of each other. I guess the "American" (assuming you're in America) course of action is to speak to your senator to push for reform and help evolve our government. If that fails, ditch the government altogether a…
U.S. patents go to the first inventor, regardless of filing order.
Re: Almost a third of our portfolio is under attack by patent trolls.
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Strong disagree. They found the vulnerability. It is a remarkably interesting attack. Without their work, we'd just be silently vulnerable to the problem. I think (for instance) the DPA patents are a decent example of good-faith patents. RSA was patent-encumbered for a long time too. You can formulate a similar argument about that. "RSA makes systems safer [ed: no it doesn't, but continuing...], so it's wrong to allo…
I think there are some steps missing in your argument. It seems to go something like this: (1) CR found the issue, spotted a business model, patented all the best solutions, and told the world. (2) Without patents, CR wouldn't have done this. (3) So without patents, no one would have done it. (4) So without patents, we'd all be silently vulnerable to a very general, very clever side-channel attack. The step from (1)…
Regarding (1) to (2): sure, maybe CRI would have published even without compensation. Just like maybe I'd do my job part-time for free anyways even if I wasn't getting paid. You can say that for anyone who's doing what they love: musicians, lawyers, architects. But what's the win for not compensating CRI? Huge consumer electronics companies have to pay slightly less NRE to build new products. I'd rather have CRI in the world.