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Glowforge launches consumer-grade laser cutter

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Re: Glowforge launches consumer-grade laser cutter

#61

It's a very polished product, and the "pen" mode is a cool idea. To me, they're targeting an odd demographic, Makers who can afford expensive toys / tools, but also want a very friendly, hands-off interface. I would have expected the Maker camp to be ordering ~ $700 40-50W laser cutters from Shenzhen. I suppose the Glowforge would be pretty great in a school setting, though.

CEO/Founder of Glowforge here. There are a bunch of lasers billed as 40W on ebay and amazon, but please look really carefully before you buy one. The mostly-harmless part is the lousy interface, overrated tube, and inability to cut (the motion controller only supports raster mode). The worrisome parts are the ungrounded case, high voltage wires that are usually but not always firmly attached, and lack of an interlock…

> the lousy interface

Which, on one such cutter I used, involved having to pre-process DXF files through Corel Draw (!!) in order to get the cutter software to read them at all. In my case, that meant a workflow of:

  CAD software
  -- export-to-DXF
  pre-process in Illustrator
  -- laser kerf allowance
  -- layout parts on material
  pre-process in Corel Draw
  -- load and reexport the DXF, just 'cause
  load in cutter software
  -- mark up paths for cutter parameters 
     (speed, power, cut/raster mode)
For comparison, Ponoko cuts out the last two pieces of software. AI or Inkscape can be used for all required workflow steps. The (necessary) tradeoff is that you have less control: only "cut" or "engrave" to parameters pre-determined for the requested materials.

Re: Glowforge launches consumer-grade laser cutter

#62

It's not just cloud connected, it's cloud dependent. It requires internet access and their cloud services to function at all. That's kind of disappointing.

Do you have any details about this? I can't seem to find that on their site. But yeah, if that's true it's a real buzzkill.

They say so here at 13:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=292&v=0R3mMUsHFvU

I said so in a comment half an hour ago, but it immediately got downvoted to oblivion. Meanwhile the comment seems to slowly recover.

Nowhere on their website they say so. I would be really pissed if I bought a printer for thousands of dollars, unpack it and then realize I cannot use it. Letting it use my internet connection and being dependant on the services of a company to use it would not be an option for me.

Re: Glowforge launches consumer-grade laser cutter

#63

This looks like a decent laser but I thought I'd post a few thoughts about this package which might give a potential buyer pause. First, the main unique feature I see is the built in camera which apparently gives you a preview of cut/engraved finished part on your computer screen with the material as it's positioned inside the machine. This also (apparently, it's not clear), allows you to correct for misaligned mater…

Every issue you mentioned apart from the terrible fumes are problems that already exist in one's home with cooking in your own home, and people, seeing the convenience of cooking in their homes, have adapted to it. Regarding fumes actually, the smell from my neighbor's cooking isn't always to my liking either, but, perhaps, burnt plastic might be worse and equally undesirable to all people.

Re: Glowforge launches consumer-grade laser cutter

#64

It's not just cloud connected, it's cloud dependent. It requires internet access and their cloud services to function at all. That's kind of disappointing.

Do you have any details about this? I can't seem to find that on their site. But yeah, if that's true it's a real buzzkill.

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Re: Glowforge launches consumer-grade laser cutter

#65
post #53

I have a 40W hobbyist laser cutter. It's fun, and a great tool for various projects, like making board games[1,2]. That said, sometimes materials inside the machine catch fire, and sometimes the beam reflects or dwells on a section of the metal enclosure. It's interesting that they've chosen to make the entire (?) enclosure out of plastic, itself a combustible material. I get why they went with plastic (cheaper to fa…

What unit do you have? I've been thinking about getting one.

I have an older one from Full Spectrum[1], from when they were adding their own control PCBs to generic units imported from China. The newer ones they have look nicer. There are a few other options on the market now, so it's probably worth shopping around. Larger cutting areas are nice, if for no other reason than that they limit the number of cuts you have to make on raw materials to get them to fit into the machine.

I made my own recirculating laser tube cooler using desktop PC water cooling components[2].

Beyond board games, they're useful for making tools for other projects. Need a drill guide with precise spacing? No problem, cut one out on the laser cutter. Need to prototype a coarse-pitch circuit board but don't want to wait for OSHPark or pay for a quick-turn fab? Ablate black paint off a Cu-clad board and chemical etch. Want to de-cap IC packages? You can, with some care. Interested in prototyping microfluidic structures? Sandwich some cut sheets of double-sided tape between acrylic sheet. Need to make a quick enclosure for a project? Design a box [3,4]. Cut the sides out of acrylic, and bond with dichloromethane (with ventilation!). It's great for making fixture components for things like robotics since you an easily include holes for machine screws.

They're also fun for cutting leather, cloth, etching aluminum laptops, making gifts, etc.

If you don't have access to nice commercial CAD software, DraftSight is a free AutoCAD clone that works fine for 2D drawings[5]. Otherwise, Inkscape works well for 2D, and for 3D, Rhino[6] has an affordable educational license that permits commercial use.

1. https://fslaser.com/Products/Lasers

2. https://github.com/tomkinsc/Laser-Cooler

3. http://boxmaker.connectionlab.org/

4. http://www.makercase.com/

5. http://www.3ds.com/products-services/draftsight-cad-software...

6. https://www.rhino3d.com/

Re: Glowforge launches consumer-grade laser cutter

#67

This looks like a decent laser but I thought I'd post a few thoughts about this package which might give a potential buyer pause. First, the main unique feature I see is the built in camera which apparently gives you a preview of cut/engraved finished part on your computer screen with the material as it's positioned inside the machine. This also (apparently, it's not clear), allows you to correct for misaligned mater…

Every issue you mentioned apart from the terrible fumes are problems that already exist in one's home with cooking in your own home, and people, seeing the convenience of cooking in their homes, have adapted to it. Regarding fumes actually, the smell from my neighbor's cooking isn't always to my liking either, but, perhaps, burnt plastic might be worse and equally undesirable to all people.

Actualy laser cutter tend to start a fire pretty often.

Re: Glowforge launches consumer-grade laser cutter

#68
I was very interested until I saw this blog post:

http://glowforge.com/our-new-advisor-jennifer-lawton/

If you have been following the whole Makerbot Industries (and then Stratasys) debacle, seeing the name of Jennifer Lawton might give you pause.

I think I'm going to sit this one out.

Re: Glowforge launches consumer-grade laser cutter

#69
That's a nice unit, and adding a camera is a big step forward. More CNC machines should have cameras to aid in alignment. I'd really like to have a camera with high magnification on a CNC mill, rigidly mounted a known distance from the spindle, and cross-hairs on the monitor.

Re: Glowforge launches consumer-grade laser cutter

#70
post #2

Dan's story about making a wallet with the laser is amusing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=292&v=0R3mMUsHFvU "No, I have a laser!"

That's pretty great; honestly, if it weren't for the cloud-connectedness, I'd consider buying it based on the strength of that story alone.

(I do wonder what the costs of leather and fake leather are, and what the market for fancy laser-etched wallets is...)

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