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Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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See also "Peace" by Marco Arment which uses data from Ghostery (and shutup.css... removing comments from sites like HN) https://peace.land/

One thing I like about Ghostery is the ability to block just beacons, tracking scripts etc while leaving ads available. Is this something Peace can do?

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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post #6

See also "Peace" by Marco Arment which uses data from Ghostery (and shutup.css... removing comments from sites like HN) https://peace.land/

One thing I like about Ghostery is the ability to block just beacons, tracking scripts etc while leaving ads available. Is this something Peace can do?

Doesn't appear so. The options in the app are:

* Block ads and trackers * Block social widgets * Block external fonts * Hide comments

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Keep in mind that there will be zillions of these in short order and many will also be free. Since they all use the same Apple-provided matching/blocking engine, there isn't going to be much in the way of innovation there - there won't be a content blocker that is 3 times faster and uses a quarter of the memory of some other content blocker. It'll be down to config UI and the quality of their rules - the rules are al…

It will be interesting to see if Adblock Fast can be faster. It says it only uses 7 "rules", that I think someone said must be machine compiled, and it's arriving today on iOS9 as well. It may not have a great database, though. https://www.producthunt.com/tech/adblock-fast

Those '7 rules' are a giant OR concatenation of a zillion rules, lifted from somewhere else (i.e. the usual publicly available sources.)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10192391

It's not going to be any faster or slower than any other blocker using a similar number of conditions.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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I am curious how this will impact the web. Ads are the only revenue stream for most of the sites. Blocking ads is good for user experience but when you think from publishers site how will they survive? "I like ads because I can support people I like without even spending a dime" said one of my friends. I cannot agree more because there are plenty of people on mid and small scale try to earn living with the content th…

> I am curious how this will impact the web.

It will make Google (the only ad company that actually outright steals personal data instead of acting nice and building Bayesian models) into a monopoly. You can't adblock the Google.

(Obviously I'm exaggerating for emotional impact, but the basic gist is true. This is not a good development for privacy on the Internet!)

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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I am curious how this will impact the web. Ads are the only revenue stream for most of the sites. Blocking ads is good for user experience but when you think from publishers site how will they survive? "I like ads because I can support people I like without even spending a dime" said one of my friends. I cannot agree more because there are plenty of people on mid and small scale try to earn living with the content th…

data already exists. apple is very late to the game and has a relatively tiny market share when compared all browser usage among all platform when including desktop.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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I am curious how this will impact the web. Ads are the only revenue stream for most of the sites. Blocking ads is good for user experience but when you think from publishers site how will they survive? "I like ads because I can support people I like without even spending a dime" said one of my friends. I cannot agree more because there are plenty of people on mid and small scale try to earn living with the content th…

So use an ad network that doesn't unnecessarily track me across the entire web, destroy my battery life, and make reading content (particularly on mobile) a game of 'find the article' amongst the shit storm of ads. The number of things that everyday sites embed in their pages is phenomenal. The Ghostery extension gives a good idea about how much crap gets loaded. In an article about content blockers, http://www.imore…

You have no idea about ad network at all. "unnecessarily track"? Tracking is the only way to make the ad relevant to you and increase the ad's value so you actually see fewer ads and those ads fund better content. Without any tracking, you gonna see at least tripled amount of ads on the most popular websites today in order to generate same amount of revenue. And BTW, everything between "you land on a webpage" and "ad network decided which ad to serve" happens in about 100ms or less, like you can really notice it?! Complain about ads when you actually pay for subscription rather than asking for "workaround links" when you try to read a WSJ article posted on HN next time.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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So use an ad network that doesn't unnecessarily track me across the entire web, destroy my battery life, and make reading content (particularly on mobile) a game of 'find the article' amongst the shit storm of ads. The number of things that everyday sites embed in their pages is phenomenal. The Ghostery extension gives a good idea about how much crap gets loaded. In an article about content blockers, http://www.imore…

You are absolutely right. Abusing clients is not acceptable. I just wanted to start discussion from publisher's point of view. I am just trying to ask if it is fair to punish people for bad attitude of ad networks. If it is than another solution shall be proposed and forcing people to create native apps is not one of them. edit: additional comment

> I am just trying to ask if it is fair to punish people for bad attitude of ad networks.

Publishers should ask themselves whether they are in the business of providing quality content to consumers, or in the business of sharing revenue with advertisers. Deciding which side of this line they fall on will help them make the right choices.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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One thing I like about Ghostery is the ability to block just beacons, tracking scripts etc while leaving ads available. Is this something Peace can do?

Doesn't appear so. The options in the app are: * Block ads and trackers * Block social widgets * Block external fonts * Hide comments

OK, thanks. Will contact the dev to see if it’s planned functionality.
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