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What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by bane »

mrb wrote: post #200

Heather, I agree that people are unnecessarily rude to you. Don't sob. Your code shows you are already a more capable programmer than most of the ones I interview. No one has given you a clear answer as to why your code is reinventing the wheel, so allow me to do it politely. I took every single example from your README, and show you below how everything can be reimplemented with sed -r (nice extended regex syntax, m…

The good news is that in every single example, her command-line equivalent is fewer keystrokes (sometimes many fewer).

Depending on how much you need to this sort of workflow, this could be extremely valuable.

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Post by petdance »

donohoe wrote: post #533
nollidge wrote: post #523

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Here's David Cramer's notpology: http://justcramer.com/2013/01/24/being-wrong-on-the-internet...

Hate to say it but I think his post is fair and to the point. You don't have to like what he said but he puts it in context and within the realm of Twitter - a 140 limited space of communication. His original tweet was "Ever wanted to make sed or grep worse?". Really. Can we not be critical on the internet any more? And here is EVERYONE saying worse things about him in the comments!? Go look in the mirror people. I'l…

> Can we not be critical on the internet any more?

You can, but why? What good is served?

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by bane »

jrabone wrote: post #476
tptacek wrote: post #221

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I've been coding since 1993 and I have never made room in my brain for stuff like -print0. Moreover, there are times when you'll want to do this stuff from within another program. What are you going to do, shell out to a find(1) pipeline? Then people like me will be giving you shit. There's nothing wrong with rewriting sed in Javascript.

IMO, if you deal exclusively in shell on UNIX-alikes, you'll likely only need -print0 once in blue moon because people just don't tend to create filenames with spaces or other amusements in them. The instant you add Windows to the mix, suddenly it's the best feature ever and becomes the default for any 'find -print0 | xargs -0 ...' pipeline. I also think that binary sized string should be the default for shells and c…

You might be surprised at how often a filenames I make is OSX becomes a PIA (because of spaces) to handle in the terminal.

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Post by huhtenberg »

brazzy wrote: post #525
huhtenberg wrote: post #502

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> I cannot even make this stuff up: You are clearly well versed in this subject. So, how would you attribute this remark?

Twitter; you don't have space for detailed (and possibly constructive) criticism, you substitute witticisms because that's what gets retweeted (i.e. what the environment rewards). Maybe you read another snarky tweet just before and want to one-up it. Maybe you just worked on some messy code and are a bit frustrated and this looked like the right place to vent. Off-hand snarkiness can be pretty mean, but that doesn't…

Sure, I understand that he is not an inherently mean person, who went looking for a sloppy code to bash. I meant that if he acted this way once, there's a good chance that he said something similar before, but it went unnoticed at that point.

Given his apology, he clearly would've not made that remark in person, nor would have he done it if didn't have a receptive audience that appreciates such snobbery.

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Post by protomyth »

mrgoldenbrown wrote: post #566
readme wrote: post #124

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I hope the keyword is 'did' -- if the hiring process is that robotic and stupid imagine the rest.

It's not always that simple. In a big enough organization, there can easily be good parts and bad parts, with the bad parts worth tolerating, especially if the bad part is just an upfront cost like a dumb hiring process. I might put up with some annoying corporate HR crap if it meant I could work at someplace like Xerox PARC in its heyday.

It was a DOE national lab, so it still stings a bit. It is probably why I absolutely hate the phrase "fly-over state" and tend to think less of people using it. It is probably also why I have such a visceral reaction to this article http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5069195 and its author.

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Post by spooneybarger »

dos1 wrote: post #532
brazzy wrote: post #377

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My takeaway: "Twitter makes it so hard not to accidentally be an asshole."

No, Steve Klabnik being an asshole makes it so hard for him to not accidentally be an asshole. Look at this quote: > nothing's _wrong_ with it, but I don't want to build my app on top of others' code who are at this level of understanding What a prick!

that quote is from where?

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Post by sirclueless »

kaosjester wrote: post #483
kamaal wrote: post #298

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I think the point everyone is trying to make here is. Should every person spend 5-10 minutes doing this? If the problem occurs too frequently, it makes more sense to make the solution re usable. Which is exactly what 'replace' is doing here.

The point everyone seems to be making is that there is no reason to do this in javascript if it's for command line use. Implementing it in js like this is just silly.

JavaScript has a widely used, native regular expression engine. That's enough technical defense on its own for that particular design decision, besides the usual, "Reimplementing a unix command-line tool in your favorite language is always a useful exercise."

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Post by donohoe »

columbo wrote: post #583
donohoe wrote: post #533

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Hate to say it but I think his post is fair and to the point. You don't have to like what he said but he puts it in context and within the realm of Twitter - a 140 limited space of communication. His original tweet was "Ever wanted to make sed or grep worse?". Really. Can we not be critical on the internet any more? And here is EVERYONE saying worse things about him in the comments!? Go look in the mirror people. I'l…

> Really. Can we not be critical on the internet any more? I think that's a vast oversimplification. I actually don't think this has ANYTHING TO DO WITH CODE. Anyone can walk into a subway restaurant, ask for a sandwich, take pictures of the people who made the sandwich, tweet their pictures laughing at how stupid they are and what a shitty job they did making your sandwich. You can do that to waiters, barstaff, clea…

  I have a ton of files on github and gist, most of them are absolute crap.
Honest question:

Is it okay for someone else to say (without swearing or making personal jabs) in public that it is also crap?

And again, to emphasize, this is a sincere question.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by dos1 »

spooneybarger wrote: post #596
dos1 wrote: post #532

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No, Steve Klabnik being an asshole makes it so hard for him to not accidentally be an asshole. Look at this quote: > nothing's _wrong_ with it, but I don't want to build my app on top of others' code who are at this level of understanding What a prick!

that quote is from where?

https://twitter.com/harthvader/status/293829635823792128
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