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Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by Plont »

Catloafdev wrote: post #166
rstat1 wrote: post #132

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This is a narrative that MS, Google etc want you to believe. They gutted it for ads. That's what's happening. There are workarounds now, that's what the existing ad block options are. They are heavily kneecapped.

Plus, those workarounds will only continue to work (in as much as they currently do) for as long as Google suffers them to. Enshittification, as always, works in baby steps.

uBlock lite is already ineffectual in comparison to uBlock Origin. I understand that it's nonetheless good enough for many people, but it will get worse from here.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by lousken »

Throwthrowbob wrote: post #84
lousken wrote: post #3

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I am pretty sure xfce4 weather plugin takes a lot less.

Looks like about 30 MiB with a quick test.

And that includes gtk3 bloat I am assuming, gtk2 would be even better. But 30MB for a weather app sounds acceptable to me.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by brokenmachine »

asdfman123 wrote: post #413
brokenmachine wrote: post #376

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And this is why Windows will have it's lunch eaten by Linux.

Why exactly? Because all the people who really care about good software will switch over? All 1% of the market? Most people don't care about most things. I don't think much about the vast majority of products I use, because there's only so many things I can track closely. Same goes for everything else. Most people won't look and won't care.

I've heard SO MANY people who wouldn't usually care about such things say unprompted that they hate Windows 11. The ads, the nagging, the unbelievably slow performance for things that used to be instant, the terrible taskbar, etc etc.

I think they've finally made it so shit that people actually care and will look for alternatives.

Maybe it won't happen today, maybe not in the next 5 years, but it will happen.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by justsomehnguy »

fragmede wrote: post #583
justsomehnguy wrote: post #211

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> The MacBook Neo has only 8GiB of RAM. This is widely decried as not enough. Bwahahah! https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

I really didn't want to link that thread but I guess it would show it the best way: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47331863

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by capr »

izacus wrote: post #427
WarmWash wrote: post #331

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AI writes code like that, but people get pretty upset hearing it. The program that I use to manage my small business, basically a GUI wrapper on an sql DB is a total delight to use, because everything happens instantly . Even opening it is instantaneous. Modern software is such a bloated mess that you kind of get used to a 20 second start-up and a .25-1 second delay on every action. Then you use something that isn't…

> AI writes code like that, but people get pretty upset hearing it. Yeah, people get upset when you spew out total bullshit. I work as a performance specialist and "AI writes code like that" is utter nonsense. AI writes the same terrible performing code that was the mediocre developer standard on Stackexchange and other codebases it ate. You still need a lot of vigilance and time to make well performing software and…

performance specialist, really?

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by HDBaseT »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #13

...you know, I keep reading all this stuff about memory prices, and it does suck, but memory is still much cheaper per gigabyte than it was ~15 years ago. Which matters because the things most consumers are doing on their computers haven't changed in the past 15 years. We browse the web, edit photos, message friends, and so on. AI generally runs on remote servers anyway. For years, everyone kept saying it was fine th…

I don't really understand the "its cheaper now than xyz years ago"

Sure, but we're being screwed regardless. You should be disappointed that almost 2 decades on, pricing hasn't improved. You should be disappointed the reason memory costs so much is because of AI contracts that you cannot compete with.

>Maybe it's time software developers actually used resources efficiently?

At least anecdotally, I'm seeing more and more native apps being written. Sure most aren't first party products, sure some are AI generated but its better than having 11 electron apps on my computer running at the same time.

I want to upgrade to AM5 (thus DDR5). I currently have 64GB of RAM and most of the time in games (even "less demanding" games like CS2), I find my system using over 32GB of RAM. This is a Fedora system!

I think I could get away with 48GB, but 64GB is too far out of my price range.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by satvikpendem »

kalleboo wrote: post #354
satvikpendem wrote: post #22

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https://wttr.in/ shows it's very possible.

The display on that page is literally broken for me, the boxes are all misaligned. It seems like it can't handle Japanese text correctly. Properly working localization in dozens of languages is one of those things that adds "bloat" to modern software that was missing in the bad old days.

Unicode doesn't require 100s of megs.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by welwala »

NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #577
raxxorraxor wrote: post #411

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For the Windows look and feel, I recommend Mint + Cinnamon. It took me about 15min to not miss anything on Windows and was shocked how I had forgotten how clean a system can be. Mandatory Windows accounts can still be circumvented with a console command for Win 11 installations, but the overall enshitification package just got worse and worse. Cinnamon is X11, but it works very well.

> Cinnamon is X11, *so* it works very well. FIFY

Is that still the case on Linux as well?

I'm on FreeBSD and yes there's still many bugs and nasties in Wayland. It works technically but it's not great, at least alongside KDE.

But I thought on Linux it was a lot further along now.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by rightbyte »

M95D wrote: post #473
w4yai wrote: post #35

Please, Microsoft, PLEASE ! You can do BETTER ! Stop acting like an internship for every single feature you add ! Where's the money going ?

You should view it as an invitation to write a better app, like that guy that wrote a windows terminal to replace the garbage Microsoft wrote.

Seems very wasteful to help MS make their closed system better.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by rightbyte »

vor_ wrote: post #504
Hobadee wrote: post #424

> A new report shows Windows 11's built-in Weather app can consume more than 1 GB of RAM. By comparison, Apple's native Weather app on macOS uses roughly five times less memory under similar conditions. Can we also be talking about how the Mac version uses 200MB apparently!? Why is a weather app using any more than like 10-20MB or so of RAM!? Load a couple icons into memory, maybe some background image or pattern, an…

For one thing, Apple Weather displays hi-DPI animations for weather conditions.

Yeah. Should be possible to do those proceduraly to save ram and some clever animation design to not use too much CPU.

Anyways it is a bad trade off for the users to make and most don't even know they areaking it.

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