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US strikes $1.2B deal to pay German firm to halt offshore wind projects

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All kinds of power generation are typically heavily subdized in some way. I do not think this "common sense" strategy exists.

Subsidies (via tax or lack thereof) on aeroplane fuel is one that really does get overlooked. Yet on the other hand, use a few gallons in a car and you're demonised as a climate villain in name and taxes. Nobody factors in life of the car, the cost to dispose and replace the batteries in electric cars, or the whole aspect that cars made today are less serviceable than cars of old that its gone from being able to rebu…

This is more true in the US due to costs of labor vs. parts and a whole culture of profitability at all costs.

Compared to other countries, repairability is higher where labor is cheaper and people are more price conscious. We're at late stage capitalism where any chance of lost profits is seen as criminal.

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The madness continues. No one else is to blame other than the american zeros who made this hell to continue this long.

Don't worry they are now starting to wake up and realize that Trump has been lying to them so they will vote for Tucker Carlson in the next election.

The MAGA crowd is gone and lost. There is little difference to other religious nutjobs, no matter is muslim or christian.

Afaiac MAGA is just a the white/dumb/uneducated version of jihad.

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We are outraged. We know we are nearly the climate abyss. We see the changes all around us. What are we going to do to collectively to change course? To right the ship? I wrote a book on the issue. I think the next best thing we can do is work together to amplify our voices to the point ignoring us is no longer politically convenient. https://sustainedminimalist.com/book

Tens of millions of Americans, including republican leaning voters who claim to believe in climate change, demonstrably reject the reality in front of their eyes.

The same generation who groused about how bad snow used to be (Up to rooftops!) and make fun of people who struggle in what little snow we get right now are the same people who are posting in comments sections "Earth has always changed temperature"

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> Interior Secretary Doug Burgum said in a statement posted on X that Americans deserve an energy system built on common sense and not one dependent on "costly subsidies". I agree. This is why we are building offshore wind and not subsidizing fossil fuels, right?

It’s disappointing to see Redditesque room temp iq discourse in the comments.

Has anyone mentioned the expected cost per Mwh of this project to get a sense whether this made economic sense, or are we talking Biden admin adjacent vanity political project paid by rate payers?

Just for reference, the hopefully-cancelled Empire wind near me had a 20yr PPA of $155mwh, which makes Vogtle (-~$170mwh) look like a steal.

More numbers and less foaming at the mouth, please.

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> Interior Secretary Doug Burgum said in a statement posted on X that Americans deserve an energy system built on common sense and not one dependent on "costly subsidies". I agree. This is why we are building offshore wind and not subsidizing fossil fuels, right?

> common sense and not one dependent on "costly subsidies".

They say one thing and do another!

Edit: I meant to say wrapping their stupid acts under the disguise of 'common sense' is a stupid act in itself.

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It’s kind of amazing and horrifying at the same time that a democratic country like the U.S. is doing all these shenanigans like blocking clean zero carbon energy, while a communist authoritarian country is massively moving towards clean energy. Based on what our media and our education system teaches us, one would have assumed that common sense and sound logic would prevail in a democracy, but rather what we see is…

It's almost like we've been sold a lie about good guys and bad guys, us vs them, and so on.

I do think authoritarianism on its own is bad. I want the freedom to criticize my government, and I want the freedom to run for elections or to advocate for changes I want to see. I think democracy and logical long-term thinking shouldn't be mutually exclusive. I feel democracy and sensible behavior are two not connected things.

You can have idiotic authoritarian governments that ruin the economy. China and Vietnam were exceptions among communist countries, who switched to a form of market economy, when they saw that central planning was poverty-inducing and nigh impossible to do.

The problems we're seeing in democracies might lie with the level of disinformation for electioneering purposes that is permitted under free speech today.

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Not voting against evil is indeed voting for evil and that is what the net majority did. The minority doesn't have a charismatic leader to rally around so we don't have a "movement" that can fight back against the corruption at scale. Democrats need to stop taking the high road and start thinking "WWRD?" and out do them.

What Would Reagan Do?

I meant Republicans more broadly. Whatever bad things Reagan did, it is a shadow on current Republican tactics.
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