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Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#591
EU to Apple: “You guys should make it so that any AI can be plugged into Siri”

Apple to EU: “nah, we need to be able to provide only the best”

US government: * starts pulling the plug on AIs outside the US *

You can kind of see how the EU has a point

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#593

I think we should see this as simply silly behavior by a government. Export control is not an effective tool for controlling a consumer facing technology developers everywhere want to use (see:VPNs) so there was no good faith policy justification for imposing an export control. This is an administration that seems to be keeping track of who its friends are and aren't, and likes to be the center of every story. They a…

VPNs won't work when they do document (passport) verification.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#594

Their entire marketing strategy has been unwarranted fearmongering. This is completely unsurprising.

I personally find the fearmongering annoying and just ignore it, but the model is incredibly capable. It genuinely makes any user of it much more powerful, so to be aware of that is sensible.

As user of course I'd like zero fearmongering, zero regulations, zero drama. This all sucks for us users.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#595
This is devastating - particularly the part about targeting non-US nationals.

Andrej Kaparethy can't do his job.

This is going to have a huge effect.

Chinese open weight models, which were in a 'reluctant' category aka 'maybe there's some CCP propaganda embedded' just got a whole new life.

Arbitrary and instant cut off from key technology is going reshape a lot of things.

Well over 1/2 of US growth is now AI and well over 1/2 that revenue is outside of US.

Space X IPO in addition to OpenAI and Antrhopic IPO's ... would be put in gigantic risk in any rational market situation.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#597

So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use…

I think this could kill LLM development. What's the point in pushing boundaries, when your business model is already hard to profit from, only to be blocked from selling your work to the entire world? Where's the incentive to continue?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#598

So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use…

I do not really like applying the "if we did it, they will too when they can!" logic to other government's.

China has flaws, plenty of them, but there's no real evidence to believe their motivations or mechanisms of pursuing motivations are that similar to that of the United States.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#599

Time to switch to open weight Chinese models. Any company that uses Magaland LLMs should be aware of the very real Trump related risk. What happens if the LLM your firm runs on is disabled tomorrow, because Trump wakes up feeling slightly annoyed...

I've been able to move away from most US suppliers, but they do still have the best stuff when it comes to CPUs, GPUs and LLMS. By now I'd expected that some ARM chip would be on par with AMD/Intel, but even disregarding compatibility, they aren't. You'd think there is some ML-capable chip on the market with crappy software but on par with NVidia; even disregarding software there just isn't. For some reasons the Americans make the best stuff. I'm not American myself, so there is zero nationalism involved. Just a frustrated buyer :) As a buyer, I'd like options.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#600

I think we should see this as simply silly behavior by a government. Export control is not an effective tool for controlling a consumer facing technology developers everywhere want to use (see:VPNs) so there was no good faith policy justification for imposing an export control. This is an administration that seems to be keeping track of who its friends are and aren't, and likes to be the center of every story. They a…

"effective tool for controlling a consumer facing technology developers everywhere want to use (see:VPNs) "

No - it's extremely effective.

Do you realize the difference between a 'few people using VPNs + fake IDs at 2-person companies ... vs companies all companies globally not allowed to use tech?

If 'Bank of Montreal' were caught using export controlled technology it could be devastating - so they're not going to be using it along with any little mom and pop shop.

We don't know what the Administration is doing other than 'This is Extremely Heavy Handed' and will have devastating consequences if it goes on.

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