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Re: Siri AI

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Post by alt227 »

Planktonne wrote: post #573
rafaelmn wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom 100% of the time turns of all the lights in children's bedroom. Alexa has no problem with this. Disappointing to say the least. Completely useless, I was going to get an Android this year on upgrade cycle. Will check this out first.

> Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom This is a fascinating example. You would initially assume it's just inconvenient versus flipping a switch--this can't be labour-saving by default. The only way it makes sense is if you're doing it remotely; from another room, you're putting your children to bed. That's even weirder though, because you're taking what should be a moment of connection/care and trying…

Its always frustrating when people describe a tech issue, and the response to that is not to discuss the issue itself, but just point out ways in which the person reply doesn't agree with what they are assuming is the original posters lifestyle choices.

Why waste time and effort just picking apart what someone else does with their free time? I can only assume becasue they disagree with the issues relevance, but that only goes to show the intent of the person replying. They dont care about the tech issue and just want to show why they think they are better than the person with the problem.

Human condition i guess!

Re: Siri AI

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Post by wiseowise »

sakesun wrote: post #282

Microsoft cannot compete in browser race and has to adopt Chromium. Apple cannot compete in AI and has to adopt Gemini Google is a really amazing company.

Google is a great developer, but a really shitty consumer company.

Nest devices are garbage, it has been like a decade since their phones were competitive with other vendors, ChromeOS was barely hanging outside of education center and now it's a zombie walking since Apple released their cheap Mac Nano, Gemini is a joke as a product compared to Anthropic and ChatGPT. The only things worth something are Chrome, Gmail, Workspace and their Cloud.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by watwut »

djaro wrote: post #569
Snoddas wrote: post #546

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I think you are wrong. They never asked for one becase they never imagined being able to afford one. The amount of administration organizing a normal household takes I suspect most would be glad to leave to someon/something they trust and that can be held accountable. Today that someone needs to be a person (imo). But who knows, a startup may be plotting accountable digital assistans as we speak.

I think theres some real use cases in the household department. I would love an AI that I just tell my nutrition goals (I want to eat X calories, Y protein, Z fiber, hit all vitamins) and it just generates a full meal plan for me each day. Like, I go to the store and it made the complete shopping list for me. And automatically updates the rest of the day if I tell it I skipped a meal or ate a snack.

Eating disorder as a service does indeed sound like a business plan.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by JohnBooty »

steve1977 wrote: post #537
grey-area wrote: post #519

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Or maybe there are just a few complete trips to major city in the training data that it could copy from? I imagine major destinations are much easier.

I think that's a large part behind the "success" of LLMs... people vastly overestimate their uniqueness.

It’s really one of the most flabbergasting things about discussing LLMs with the naysayers.

There are a lot of extremely legitimate concerns, like the environmental impact and so on.

But I just laugh when they point out that LLMs are merely clever regurgitators of their previous inputs… as if this isn’t how we as humans operate nearly all of the time. People realllllllllly want to think they’re special snowflakes.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by nozzlegear »

avazhi wrote: post #536
nozzlegear wrote: post #432

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This sounds like a take that you'd probably only find on HN though. It seems dubious that regular Apple users see any issues with the software stack or with Siri, certainly not to the point that it'd be a branding problem for Apple.

Next time you're speaking to a close non-techie friend or family member feel free to ask them how often/whether they ever use Siri, and then ask them why not, and you'll realise that no, this isn't some HN-specific peculiarity.

I don't have to wait for a next time: my mother uses Siri literally all the time, it drives me crazy lol

> and you'll realise that no, this isn't some HN-specific peculiarity.

I think it is tbh

Re: Siri AI

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Post by alt227 »

brookst wrote: post #381
kaibee wrote: post #353

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> It still boils down to general guidelines that it’s impossible to know if you’re violating before the fact, and they will not even approve/reject proposals in advance. It’s basically “go read the act yourself, and ship what you think is compliant, and you’ll know whether we interpret the words the same way by whether or not we fine you.” Companies want to know exactly where the line is so they can figure out how to…

So you’d be cool with speed limit signs that said “hey, don’t go too fast” and no specific limits? And the cops decide who to pull over on vibes, reputation, mood? I’m more of a rule of law person myself. If there’s a law that must not be broken, and breaking it results in penalties, it seems insane to me to not specify it in advance. Sure, big tech is largely evil. Arrest ‘em, find them, IDGAF. But pretending that D…

>speed limit signs that said “hey, don’t go too fast”

Yeah we already have that. We have the words 'SLOW' on the road that ask you to slow down from the current limit for the hazard ahead, but pulling you up on this is officers discretion.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by nozzlegear »

kennywinker wrote: post #443
nozzlegear wrote: post #427

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Is your complaint that the example text message in the image wasn't three paragraphs long? It's just showing search results.

My complaint is this image is supposed to tell the story of how this stuff is useful or new. Finding a message from earlier in the same day and then paraphrasing the message instead of just showing it isn’t useful or new. A simple keyword search uses infinitely fewer GPUs and finds me the info as fast without the risk of hallucinations or datacenter driven environmental collapse. But for whatever reason - because thi…

> But for whatever reason - because this stuff is mostly useless, because they’ve all got ai psychosis, or because of general dysfunction in the corporate structure - they can’t come up with a better example.

More likely, they just wanted an image that shows it can search your text messages for context. Most people still aren't familiar with AI, so having a very simple example image[¹] for people who may not have used an AI search tool before is useful.

[¹] I'm sure you and I can both think of more complex questions to pose to the Skinner box, but we're both familiar with AI and know what to expect.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by reinhash »

Hamuko wrote: post #129
akmarinov wrote: post #44

None for the EU Is it available in China at least or is this another “50% of the userbase gets nothing new in the OS update” year? Edit: https://x.com/wongmjane/status/2064052590992916840?s=46 Lol

Wrong. It's some for the EU. > EU users will be able to access Siri AI on macOS 27, visionOS 27, and watchOS 27. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de...

correct, but honestly it's much more interesting to have the new Siri on my phone than my mac, at least in my case. Very disappointing, having bought an Iphone 16 pro mainly for the new AI features which almost 2 years later are still not there to be used.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by post-it »

Tepix wrote: post #518

They promised Apple Intelligence with iPhone 15 Pro and more recent models. Now [relevant parts of] Siri AI is restricted to iPhone 17 / iPhone Air and more recent models. People who believed Apple and bought an iPhone 16 to use with Apple Intelligence are getting the shaft.

I have an iPhone 16 and I don't feel like I'm getting the shaft. It sounds like there's one specific customization thing that'll only work on the pro models? Not an issue. At some point in a few years I'll buy a new phone and it'll be the latest again, and then it won't be.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by alt227 »

gilbetron wrote: post #77

I don't care much about Siri, and not a lot about Apple (other than as an investment), but Apple is generally really good about putting out polished tech, and so I'm curious if Siri AI will be up to their usual standards, because if so, it represents a significant usage of AI that has solved hallucination issues. But that's a big If!

With the amount of people that have iphones in this world, I am more than sure that somebody will be able to make it do something wrong.

Apple knows this which is why it is taking years to test and iron out the kinks. But somebody somewhere will make it hack a social media account, or give over somebody elses credentials, or generate illegal child images etc.

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