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Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Post by giancarlostoro »

dijit wrote: post #586
quintu5 wrote: post #585

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You're the first person I've seen call out 10 as going downhill. What were your complaints about 10? I migrated to macOS for development years ago and going back to Windows for development always felt gross, but I never had any issues with windows for entertainment/general productivity workflows. It's only once I tried 11 that I noped out for everything other than use as a Steam launcher.

10 was universally understood to be terrible, we're revising it to be good because we're comparing it with 11. That was the start of telemetry, it was forced on people with an upgrade pop-over that if uncancelled would just upgrade your PC... Windows 8 may have got rid of the start menu, and Windows 10 did bring it back, but in a weird hybrid form with "live tiles". Home users lost the ability to defer or decline Win…

> Windows 8 may have got rid of the start menu, and Windows 10 did bring it back, but in a weird hybrid form with "live tiles".

Windows 8 eventually caved and added it back in. I'll sound crazy, but I didn't mind it taking up the whole screen. Windows 8 gave me this interesting feeling that my OS was wrapping around an older version of Windows with Metro, and for whatever reason I loved it. I also did have a touch-screen laptop that I loved, hell I still have it... I bought it the week Windows 8 came out... and it runs Linux now.

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Post by nottorp »

hollerith wrote: post #570
nottorp wrote: post #508

Seriously? Will it be as silent as a MacBook Pro? Will you be able to throw it into a backpack without shutting it down? At a quick glance it sounds like they're competing on specs and obviously missing everything else.

Also, Windows is probably significantly less secure than MacOS and Apple definitely has the best hardware security in the industry.

If that translates to you can install whatever you want on the hardware you paid for, maybe it’s a plus. Let’s see where Apple is going with that first.

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Post by dragonwriter »

kergonath wrote: post #493
DeathArrow wrote: post #453

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Apple wouldn't ever do something like that. "Good artists copy, great artists steal"

This quote is terribly misunderstood. "Steal" here means "make it your own", as in, improve it, not "copy slavishly". What it means is that to be great you have to find good ideas and then execute.

Yeah, you are correct: in “good artists copy, great artists steal”, the “steal” doesn’t mean “copy”. But, OTOH, there’s another word in there that does...

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Post by chainingsolid »

oaiey wrote: post #410
evolve2k wrote: post #81

Would love to see many more manufacturers read this as the slight taht it is from Microsoft and to follow Lenovos lead in making windows a paid add-on, going with a big Linux distro as the default. Maybe instead of hardware they should just stick to the knitting and deal with their quality issues around both the OS and the Office suite right now.

The whole forum here is bashing Windows for being thermal / performance disaster compared to apple products. I do not see how a laptop running Linux will evade the same fate (at least the bashing :).

When I switched my desktop from Windows 10 -> Debian, I noticed the fans ran less (until video games). And I pretty much ran the same apps. 1/2 of the complaining is a lack of being able to choose/clean up that is running!

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Post by 1attice »

dijit wrote: post #587
giancarlostoro wrote: post #582

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I've stopped using Windows as a Microsoft fanboy (I use C# to put bread on my table). I loved Windows, I think it peaked at 8 (yeah I know, unpopular take!) because 10 started out niceish, but went downhill and has been going downhill since, and Windows 11 is similar, just downhill to the max. I wish Microsoft would separate their marketing shenanigans from Windows more drastically and stop requiring online accounts.…

> I think it peaked at 8 Practically every benchmark agrees with you, aside from the Metro start menu, it was solid.

I am old enough to declare it peaked with Windows 2000, which was mercifully a version of NT that crashed less and had a UI that was intended for serious use, rather than consumer market thrills.

Which is why it was on the market so briefly. Every commit since has been for the bottom line, not the user.

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Post by twoWhlsGud »

rbanffy wrote: post #454
RankingMember wrote: post #170

My experience with Surfaces and, particularly, the Surface Book and its accompanying dock were such that I'd have to be paid to use one again. For example, the dock would get its own updates silently and brick itself randomly and the proprietary magnetic connector between the dock and the computer was prone to a poor connection. I remember many occasions trying to work and my screens just randomly blinking in and out…

> local Microsoft Store The backrooms version of an Apple Store… I’ve been to precisely one and it was, indeed, a sad experience. You’d also need to pay me a lot to use Windows. I even have an assigned Windows virtual desktop at work, but I also have a MacBook for actual work - the VDI is only used for the stuff that doesn’t quite work right on Macs.

They weren't exactly hopping, but having a local store where you could get hardware support was a big deal, for me at least. I stopped buying Surface devices and switched entirely back to Apple for anything mobile when they closed the MS store near me.

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Post by game_the0ry »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #546

Call me a hater, but the problem is Windows, not necessarily the hardware. I get it they want to stop the MacBook Pro, but: Windows is slow for no reason; it collects everything it can about the user; takes screenshots of whatever the user is doing; has ads - even though you pay for the OS; drivers are still a mess; hardware is made by different companies and no actual proper integration like Apple does. I could go o…

> Call me a hater, but the problem is Windows...

You're not a hater, windows is hot garbage.

Windows is so damaged a this point, both in terms of rep and functionality, that microsoft might as well start form scratch with linux as the kernel. I am not even joking. And fire every mba that ever influenced the product.

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Post by twoWhlsGud »

adamfarhadi wrote: post #555
rconti wrote: post #332

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I've been super happy with my Caldigit TS3 for my various Macs.

Same here. My TS3 Plus is around 7 years old now and I’m still daily driving it. Haven’t experienced any issues at all and I’ve used it with various Windows/MacOS/Linux computers.

I got my TS3 after it had been out awhile and it's been great for me, also. Wonder how the current (TB5) versions are. They generally seem to take a few (?) years to really get the firmware working properly.
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