Live data from Hacker News

Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

techcrunch.com

591–600 of 614 posts

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#591
post #589

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seem to be not getting my points across, so I'll stop here, only addressing the last one. Yeah, "the world" ignored killings of untold thousands of the brown and black children but is quick to condem the suffering of the white ones. See that even investigating the war crimes on the non-white people can get people in the deep trouble. Horrific but it's time for you to face the reality.

[flagged]

[flagged]

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#592
post #400

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> didn't realize Kagi had no aspirations to build their own general purpose index Kagi employee here. We're actively working on building our own indexes beyond the limited ones we have now, not just a general index but also purpose built indexes for things like programming, etc.

How do you build a search index in the days of Anubis pages everywhere?

https://roundproxies.com/blog/how-to-bypass-anti-bots/

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#593
post #541
post #520

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth I find about the same things using Kagi as I do using DuckDuckGo. But with Kagi I get to pay for the service I use and that's their funding model and that's very healthy so I want to support that.

FYI, we (DuckDuckGo) now have a subscription service ( https://duckduckgo.com/pro ) and one could always turn off ads on our search engine ( https://duckduckgo.com/settings ).

I didn't know about https://duckduckgo.com/settings at all, thanks. I really liked the customization of "Startpage".

I'm also REALLY happy to see that you can actively disable not just adds but also suggestions to install tools/apps and newsletter requests. Thank you!

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#594

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course we put labor into it. It's not some seance or wormhole communicating with the software dimension. This is the way FOSS is meant to work. I got jobs where an employer was happy to run other people's FOSS software "for free", happy for me to contribute bugs/requirements/patches back upstream, and happy to release our own projects under FOSS licenses. It is a win-win for all involved. That's the whole point of…

You seem to imply that work on FOSS projects is a second-class activity, meant to be done after companies and employers have secured their revenue sources. This is like trickle-down economics for FOSS and it doesn't work.

I wouldn't call it second class. Maybe second-order?

To me, it is no different than management, planning, logistics, marketing, etc. which is done for the purpose of supporting some other objective.

It simply means that you perform software development as work-for-hire in support of that other objective, rather than for the purpose of licensing revenue. It provides wages for services rendered, just like the vast majority of other job types.

It just doesn't provide for scalable virtual rent extraction for a "publisher" or other middleman. To me, that is a benefit of it. It removes a bunch of perverse incentives from the table. Incentives that tend to harm the developers and users for the benefit of those middlemen.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#595

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to imply that work on FOSS projects is a second-class activity, meant to be done after companies and employers have secured their revenue sources. This is like trickle-down economics for FOSS and it doesn't work.

I wouldn't call it second class. Maybe second-order? To me, it is no different than management, planning, logistics, marketing, etc. which is done for the purpose of supporting some other objective. It simply means that you perform software development as work-for-hire in support of that other objective, rather than for the purpose of licensing revenue. It provides wages for services rendered, just like the vast majo…

In principle, I don't disagree. The problem is that in practice the large corporations managed to neutralize any chance for independent by commoditizing the software service layers that supported their business and invest all their resources they could to package their proprietary solutions on top of it, AWS and "OpenElastic" being the textbook example for it.

The one way to get out of this mess would be to have the market paying a premium for companies that do R&D in FOSS directly. It can not be a secondary goal, and we can not be telling them they shuold find some other way to make a living.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#597
post #593
post #541

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI, we (DuckDuckGo) now have a subscription service ( https://duckduckgo.com/pro ) and one could always turn off ads on our search engine ( https://duckduckgo.com/settings ).

I didn't know about https://duckduckgo.com/settings at all, thanks. I really liked the customization of "Startpage". I'm also REALLY happy to see that you can actively disable not just adds but also suggestions to install tools/apps and newsletter requests. Thank you!

You’re welcome!

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#599
post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

[flagged]

Don't berate people on HN. We're here for curious conversation, not battle. Please take a moment to re-read the guidelines, and particularly note these ones:

Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer...

Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#600
post #589

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

[flagged]

Please don't comment like this on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. Please take a moment to re-read the guidelines, and particularly note these ones:

Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer...

Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Post reply on HN