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Interesting indeed. I wonder how long GitHub as a platform will be there as a viable option. Anyone who remembers SourceForge?
> I wonder how long GitHub as a platform will be there as a viable option. It will be there for as long as you (and everyone else) keep using it.
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If Microsoft is willing to put ads into your PRs via Copilot like this, imagine what they could put into your codebase itself with Copilot. Or what Microsoft could do, run, install, etc on/from your computer while running their Copilot agents. This is the same company that puts ads in your start menu and reinserts them with Windows updates even if you manually removed them.
I wonder if there will come a time where I can pay M$ to sabotage my competition codebase
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Just to add to the feedback. No one, anywhere, ever wants this or anything like it. Do not inject anything that is outside of the context of the session, ever. This is how you get your software banned at large companies. Question for you, did anyone on the team really not push back? Does the team really think anyone wants ads in their copilot output? If the answer to both of these is no, you have a team full of yes m…
> did anyone on the team really not push back? This is the real question. If they are serious about not doing something like this again, they NEED to look at what process failed and let something like this get proposed, designed, implemented and pushed to production. Usually things get reviewed at each stage. Did the people who pushed back on this get steam rolled? If no one pushed back, that's an even serious cultur…
That's a tough one. In the big meeting? In the small meeting? "Officially" push back? Encouraged to make the push back unofficial? Etc. Even just internally, it can be hard to quantify. From internal > external, more so.
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"We" here likely refers to Tim and his current coworkers who were present to see this, not every current and future employee of Microsoft / Github. Try not to think of any organization or institution as a person, but as lots of individual people, constantly joining and leaving the group.
Yeah, which is exactly why "We won't do something like this again" has about much value as Kubernetes would have value for HN. Microsoft (and therefore GitHub) care about money. If decision A means they get more money than decision B, then they'll go with decision A. This is what you can trust about corporations. Individuals (who constantly join and leave a corporation) can believe and say whatever they want, but ult…
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Please don't attack people for showing up to engage in discussion like this. I'm sure you don't intend to, but it quickly becomes part of mob behavior. We don't want that on HN for obvious reasons, and I'm sure nobody intends it, exactly, but it happens all too easily anyhow. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Absolutely my bad it came across like this.
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Wait! I think most people missed your "touched by Copilot" disclaimer. Over on twitter, someone from MS said that Copilot can modify PRs simply because they were mentioned? I've been using GitHub since it was new and heavily rely on coding agents for development, but that's an insanely large security hole. There's clearly confusion about what copilot is and is not able to edit elsewhere in this thread. I'm backing up…
If you don’t want copilot to work on your PRs, don’t ask it to.
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Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47576084 and please don't post so aggressively. I'm sure you don't intend to, but it has a strong negative effect on HN threads, and we're trying for something different here. You may not feel you owe $BigCoEmployee better (though chances are, said person is just as much a community member here as you and the other users slamming them are), but you owe this community be…
GP did not personally attack or denigrate the person they were replying to. As the dozens of other comments show, the overwhelming majority of us do not believe the root commentors claims, and this PM quite objectively does not have the leverage and authority to back their claim that they won’t let this happen again. It’s hard not to read your conception of “trying for something different” as granting undue credulity…
The impulse to hit back against what is perceived as a "transparently dishonest corporate actor" is natural and human. I feel it also, and in fact my first response when I read such comments is always an adrenaline surge and the peculiar pleasure-hit of righteous indignation. So yes, I know where these feelings are coming from; we all do.
The problem is that in the HN context, (1) there is a human being at the other end of the account being attacked, and (2) there are orders of magnitude more attackers. In practice, this can easily turn into a mob dynamic and in fact a mass beating, if a virtual one. That's bad in its own right and bad for the community here.
Edit - past explanations in case relevant:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28821698
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28647036
more at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
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You're conflating two different things. When an LLM writes a commit, it should take credit. I see nothing wrong with it adding: > Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.6 noreply@anthropic.com Compare that to the message the article is talking about: > Quickly spin up Copilot coding agent tasks from anywhere on your macOS or Windows machine with Raycast ( https://gh.io/cca-raycast-docs ). It's not just mentioning it was writt…
I understand what it's doing. I'm just saying that I'll take any signals I can get that someone is lazily submitted LLM-generated work without edit or review. If you saw this line in a commit, you'd know exactly where it came from.
By default, the LLM is credited with authorship anyway, and I assume the user can easily just remove the ad, though I don't use Copilot.
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That doesn't really make sense. So it's an ad for raycast? But raycast said they didn't know about it. To me the explanation makes perfect sense. "You can use this tool with raycast" seems like a very reasonable tip.
Bet their internal "tips team" used an LLM to generate "useful tips" for their coding agent system ;)