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Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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France has the only first strike nuclear doctrine in the world, with the specific policy of shooting nukes to "protect it's vital interests" , a term Macron has recently clarified "has a European dimension". Make of that what you will, but if I were you I wouldn't go around poking the hornets nest that has an explicit sign "these hornets will sting" attached to it.

How is Greenland a vital interest to France? Especially in the context of initiating a nuclear war with a friendly nation?

Should I give you a pass for only pulling a ten from my wallet when you mug me? Or do I defend myself knowing that next time you'll be taking more?

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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As an American, can’t say I’m too worried about Canadian opinion of us, let alone Denmark. Most Americans don’t know the name of a single politician in Denmark.

> As an American, can’t say I’m too worried about Canadian opinion of us, let alone Denmark. Maybe you should be. You might need them one day. > Most Americans don’t know the name of a single politician in Denmark. Ignorance is nothing to be proud of.

Why would we need to know that? I spend my time focusing on important things and Danish government or opinion isn’t one of them.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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As an American, can’t say I’m too worried about Canadian opinion of us, let alone Denmark. Most Americans don’t know the name of a single politician in Denmark.

As a non-American, it’s attitudes like yours, quite widespread actually, that make me rejoice this moment in history where the US is taken down a peg or two. It’s not gonna be nice and fun for anybody, but it’s time to learn that you guys are just one country in a whole world, and you need friends to thrive. The ignorant bully attitude has run its course.

No American I know except for far leftists feel like they’ve been knocked down at all. Seriously not worried about your opinion at all - never crosses my mind. I’d worry way more about China than Canada or Europe (or any of their colonies).

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Russia's invasion ironically strengthened NATO, with more countries joining or feeling the usefulness of it. Somehow the US managed to break down all that good will in such a short amount of time.. I think it's hard to overstate how much more hostile people look at the US the last few years. So much soft power has been lost.

This isn't true.

People hated Americans in the 2000s invasion of Iraq. There were popular rock songs about it and students were hesitant to say they were American.

It seems to go in cycles. Next president many will forget.

Such is the power and fickleness of the American system.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_alliances The EU treaty has a clause that calls for assistance for part of the members (who are not neutral) but there's no military structure outside NATO. There's also a perpatual public debate about whether EU should become a military alliance. eg https://theloop.ecpr.eu/can-the-eu-form-an-autonomous-milita... In practical terms, in event of a invasion, only NATO has…

You are really completely clueless, I have no idea why you keep posting comments that contradict your own comments but fine, whatever. There are four different mutual defense pacts in Europe and there is an umbrella one and they all operate independently of NATO. And then there is NATO, with or without the USA.

Hey, a bit of civility please.

I assume the contradiction you refer to is that EU has this clause but it's still not considered a military alliance? Maybe you read the term differently. It doesn't mean it has zero defense dimensions, it's that its mission or capability are not military. That's why NATO is the one a would-be invader needs to worry about wrt military consequences.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_defense_pacts_of_... https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/glossary/collecti...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_alliances The EU treaty has a clause that calls for assistance for part of the members (who are not neutral) but there's no military structure outside NATO. There's also a perpatual public debate about whether EU should become a military alliance. eg https://theloop.ecpr.eu/can-the-eu-form-an-autonomous-milita... In practical terms, in event of a invasion, only NATO has…

In WW2, was there an existing organisation for a coordinated response? In the Korean War? Was NATO the organization that coordinated allies in the Persian Gulf War?

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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The idea that the US would attempt to take Greenland by force is utterly ludicrous.

So is the idea that the US would start bombing Iran without a plan, goal, or any thought to the consequences, yet here we are...

Iran has been in a war with the USA since at least 1979. I was about to say "soft war" but that would be ignoring all the deaths.

This is one battle of many and the USA will win it. Whether it is warranted or whether the USA will win 'the war' is another thing.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_alliances The EU treaty has a clause that calls for assistance for part of the members (who are not neutral) but there's no military structure outside NATO. There's also a perpatual public debate about whether EU should become a military alliance. eg https://theloop.ecpr.eu/can-the-eu-form-an-autonomous-milita... In practical terms, in event of a invasion, only NATO has…

In WW2, was there an existing organisation for a coordinated response? In the Korean War? Was NATO the organization that coordinated allies in the Persian Gulf War?

Of course military alliances can be formed after wars start, I'm not saying this couldn't happen in Europe. But it's different to have a military alliance existing responding to a conflict (or better yet preventing the conflict, as the military alliance served as a deterrent).
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