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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by guerrilla »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #518
epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

Do Americans even read or care about Constitution anymore? Congress declares War. Even Bush sought out Congressional approval and had a resolution passed before invading Iraq. These guys are speed running the fascist playbook. Disregarding laws is one step.

What does it matter? There won't be any consequences for it. He can just do this now and then later the supreme court or congress will say something that also won't matter. The trade war wasn't legal, was struck down, yet is still happening.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by jfengel »

underdeserver wrote: post #585

I am saddened by all of these comments. Will not one of you try to steelman this decision? Or do you truly, fully believe the entire US government and intelligence complex, supported by roughly 50% of your compatriots, are warmongering baboons?

Ok, fine.

Israël is threatened by Iran. Iran has been working on nukes. There have been negotiations but they haven't been definitive yet, and Iran has never been a trustworthy negotiating partner anyway. That is why this President ditched the last round of agreements.

That's the steelman. Reality is that half my compatriots are warmongering baboons.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by iso1631 »

hmokiguess wrote: post #578
sega_sai wrote: post #363

The take home message from this is that the only way for any country to be secure is to have nuclear weapons.

On another note, Canada is the only country that ever decided against having them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_weapons_of_mass_des...

Ukraine literally had them and gave them up

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by TacticalCoder »

epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

> I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

The islamic republic of Iran has been slaughtering tens of thousands of peaceful protesters who don't want to live under sharia laws anymore. Hunting wounded in hospitals and executing them.

It's obvious there's a movement in Iran that tries to topple the islamist regime. In my city, in the EU, I see cars with iranian flags and I've seen iranian in exile call for the international community to do targetted strikes.

I'm not defending the strikes but let's not make it sound like the US is launching nukes on peaceful monks in Tibet either: we're talking about evil islamist regime that slaughtered tens of thousands of unarmed people a few weeks ago.

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Post by lgregg »

epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

Pax Romana peace.

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Post by jaredklewis »

rich_sasha wrote: post #427
sega_sai wrote: post #363

The take home message from this is that the only way for any country to be secure is to have nuclear weapons.

And not to negotiate with the US in good faith.

Not sure Iran was doing that, but for sure Maduro wasn’t.

Not sure it affects the outcome.

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Post by guerrilla »

rich_sasha wrote: post #427
sega_sai wrote: post #363

The take home message from this is that the only way for any country to be secure is to have nuclear weapons.

And not to negotiate with the US in good faith.

I don't understand Iran, Hezbollah's and the Houthis' patience with the US actually. It's absolutely shocking. After the US betrayed ALL of it's own fucking allies, in what world does it make sense to negotiate with them?

The Houthis are still "threatening" to do things today after already being decimated and Hezbollah's strength more than halved.

I don't support any of these creeps but if any of them were minimally rational, they would have all gone to total war with Israel and the US the minute they realized what Hamas was doing on October 7th. They look even more naive than Europeans at this point.

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Post by coffinbirth »

coffinbirth wrote: post #494

> Iranian media now report 40 killed and 48 students injured following the strike on a girls’ elementary school in Minab, as rescue and recovery efforts continue. Congrats America!

UPDATE: Reports now say that over 80 school children between the age of 7 and 12 were killed in Minab.

How is the Epstein Regime going to survive this politically? How is the Senate (Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, etc.) going to survive this politically?

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Post by ozgung »

epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

I don't want to insult you but your president is a populist and a TV personality. He is not a policy maker, he is more like an actor. So your country went into war mode by changing the name of the Department of Defence to Department of War. This was not a cosmetic change. This means peace times are over and you are in war. Your government acts accordingly.

Since you are still a democracy find those people who make your policy decisions. It's not that yellow man.

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Post by fsflover »

whearyou wrote: post #588

What are the chances that HN is getting astroturfed these days? Are mods strict about it? I lots of relatively new accounts coming with what seems to me extreme, but altogether pop-culture acceptable opinions

You should point out the exact posts.
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