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New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Idiocracy called this "talking like a fag".

There's a bit in Anathem about the secular society sometimes having their literacy degenerate to such an extent that they stop using alphabetic / phonetic writing systems and revert to pictographic or ideographic systems. Immediately made me think of the hospital scene in Idiocracy... and also the way some people make heavy use of emojis.

On the other hand, Korean ditched the ideographic Hanja (Chinese Character) writing system because it was too difficult to learn, in favour of a much simpler phonetic one. In Japan, the classical Kanji Chinese writing system was considered a prestige language and was customarily not taught to ordinary folks; the modern Hiragana script evolved as an easy-to-learn alternative, (initially) used heavily by women who were often not taught Kanji.

Of course, Chinese characters are not pictographic and haven't been for a few thousand years, but they are still largely ideographic.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Every single time I read the phrase 'I have been thinking about this a lot lately' my eyeballs roll back hard.

Yes, and “genuine question” or “am i missing something?”

Wait, I thought I've been seeing 'genuine question' a lot lately, but does that actually have anything to do with AI? I had assumed people were always annoying with it and it just so happened to bother me more recently

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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2040 at Wal-Mart: - Customer: Excuse me, I'm looking for the Aunt Jemima maple syrup. Can you point me in the right direction? - Employee: y u ask like chatbot

Interesting use of "Aunt Jemima" that nobody caught on, why did you use this particularly, afaik it doesn't exist anymore for being "racist"?

It would appear that you know wrong.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Prior to the rise of LLM-written posts and the natural reaction of hair-trigger suspicion, I used to em and en dash fairly often in posts on HN. No reason really other than being a bit of a typography geek who happens to have always used dashes in casual writing instead of semicolons. So when I was setting up a modifier-key keyboard layer with AHK many years ago I put the em dash on modifier+dash just because I could…

You're absolutely right! I kid. I'm also a former avid user of the em-dash, but have mostly stopped using it. I've even started replacing em-dash usage with commas, which often results in a slightly awkward, perhaps incorrect, but quaintly artisanal sentence with a LaCroix-like spritz of authenticity. My double-space-after-a-period though, I will keep that until the end. Even if it often doesn't even render in HTML o…

You know the only reason we used double spaces between sentences in the typewriter days was because everything was monospaced, right? Modern variable width fonts provide additional space automatically.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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What motivation is there to use AI to astroturf (if that's what this is) like this? Is it ideological? Is it product marketing in those relevant threads where someone is showcasing? Or is it pure technical testing, playing around?

Same as Reddit. Accumulate enough points via posting shallow and uninteresting—yet popular—dialogue to earn down voting and flagging abilities, which can be used (via automation) to manipulate discussions and suppress viewpoints. Slashdot's system was superior because mod points were finite and randomly dispensed. This entropy discouraged abuse by design—as opposed to making it a key feature of the site. It's the Ach…

I understand the technical angle that everyone is explaining - enough karma to showcase or downvote or flag.

No one's really described the main piece - the strategical motivation. I suggested politics/ideology, product marketing or just technical testing of sock puppet creation.

In reddit people spam referral links. And here?

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Someone should ban this bot, I've seen it before and it's always pretending to run this place

It doesn't look like a bot. created: August 18, 2007 karma: 36696

It was a joke. Dang is the site-wide moderator

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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My teenager recently asked me why I write like a chatbot, apparently unaware that some human beings prefer to write in complete sentences with attention to details like spelling, punctuation, grammar, and capitalization, and that LLMs were trained on this sort of writing. This makes me think of the fad where people on youtube will hold a microphone up in frame, because it somehow connotes authenticity. I'm sure some…

I'm given to understand that you've got to have your mic pretty close up to keep noise down. You don't have to eat it, but it wants to be close enough that it's going to be in frame. Ed: I'm sure there's cargo culting going on but the visibility of the mic isn't only performative.

The thing they’re describing is people hand holding lapel mics right up to their mouth, rather than clipping them to their lapel or shirt or anything (where I assume they’re designed to go still). Seems more ‘indie filmmaker’ where actually clipping it on seems too polished, and why would you trust someone who’s from Big Lapel Mic on TikTok.

This lead to other people clipping them onto random objects to make fun of the trend for a while.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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post #397

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On the Gboard keyboard. Without fail. But that's a different issue.

Happens to me all the time trying to type a search phrase in Safari in iPhone for some reason.

When you’re trying to type a URL there’s a period next to the space bar where your right thumb usually hits space, but if you’re just texting iOS won’t show that. That’s my theory, just muscle memory.
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