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An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Post by jasonwatkinspdx »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #584
jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #573

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We'll be sure to get the Avengers on it real quick! Thanks for helping us understand the urgency required.

I don't think you get to be this snarky about helping people understand things, when your initial contribution was to read "it's all hands over the holiday weekend time" and reply by saying it's a holiday weekend.

They did a stealth edit to not look as foolish. They didn't mention the holiday or weekend in what I replied to originally. That's why I snapped back with snark.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Post by Dylan16807 »

jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #591
Dylan16807 wrote: post #584

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I don't think you get to be this snarky about helping people understand things, when your initial contribution was to read "it's all hands over the holiday weekend time" and reply by saying it's a holiday weekend.

They did a stealth edit to not look as foolish. They didn't mention the holiday or weekend in what I replied to originally. That's why I snapped back with snark.

Oh, and then they basically lied about it? That sucks.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Post by ffsm8 »

quickthrowman wrote: post #453
ffsm8 wrote: post #237

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You might notice that these real engineering jobs also don't have a way to verify the product via tests like that though, which was my point. And that's ignoring that your statement technically isn't even true, because the engineers actually working in such fields are very few (i.e. designing bridges, airplanes etc). The majority of them design products where safety isn't nearly as high stakes as that... And they fre…

> You might notice that these real engineering jobs also don't have a way to verify the product via tests like that though, which was my point. The electrical engineers at my employer that design building electrical distribution systems have software that handles all of the calculations, it’s just math. Arc flash hazard analysis, breaker coordination studies, available fault current, etc. All manufacturers provide th…

Okay, honestly asking: do you really think your outlined simulation meet the same bar as automated regression tests like

> E.g you technically don't need to look at the code if it's frontend code and part of the product is a e2e test which produces a video of the correct/full behavior via playwright or similar.

> Same with backend implementations which have instrumentation which expose enough tracing information to determine if the expected modules were encountered etc

If not, your quoted sentence was "tests like that". If yes... I guess we would have to disagree.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Post by pseudohadamard »

vanc_cefepime wrote: post #548
goalieca wrote: post #432

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I read ars technica during undergrad over 20 years ago now. It complemented my learning in cpu architecture quite well. While in class we learned old stuff, they covered the modern Intel things. And also, who could forget the fantastically detailed and expert macOS reviews. I’ve never seen any reviews of any kind like that since. I dropped ars from my rss sometime around covid when they basically dropped their journa…

What blogs do you subscribe to for tech stuff in your RSS feed? I still have Ars but I have to weed through a lot of stuff like the political articles. Really like just pure tech like how it used to be with the old Anandtech.

I subscribe to some news site for hackers... "Hacker News" I think it's called. Not RSS, but I've never used that anyway. Google should be able to find it for you.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Post by mmooss »

> the effort to dig into every claim you read is an impossibly large amount of work. This “bullshit asymmetry principle” is one of the core reasons for the current level of misinformation in online discourse.

The level of misinformation predates AI, of course (and the OP doesn't say otherwise, iiuc).

There's an easy solution to the assymetry: Like many fields such as all scholarship, law, most of what you do professionally, put the burden of proof on the writer, not the reader. Ignore anything the writer fails to substantiate. You'll be surprised how very little you miss, and how much high quality, substantiated material there is - more than you can read (so why are you wasting your time on BS?)!

That not only improves accuracy, it slows down the velocity of bullshit. The assymetry is now the other way, as it should be - your attention is limited.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Post by cubefox »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #582
cubefox wrote: post #506

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I have said that they have a strong negative bias. Whether the underlying news is positive or negative is completely irrelevant. Relevant is that they make things much more negative (= less positive) than they are.

But how does that bias manifest? The only thing you said was that they "ignore neutral or positive stories", and that doesn't seem to be true.

No, I didn't say that at all. I said they are biased, that "they make things much more negative (= less positive) than they are", which is a very different thing. Basically, I'm saying they report x-10 rather than x (that's bias), and you are replying with "so the value of x they report is always negative or 0." No. Wrong.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Post by Dylan16807 »

cubefox wrote: post #597
Dylan16807 wrote: post #582

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But how does that bias manifest? The only thing you said was that they "ignore neutral or positive stories", and that doesn't seem to be true.

No, I didn't say that at all. I said they are biased, that "they make things much more negative (= less positive) than they are", which is a very different thing. Basically, I'm saying they report x-10 rather than x (that's bias), and you are replying with "so the value of x they report is always negative or 0." No. Wrong.

Oh that was the person earlier in the conversation, okay.

So you haven't really been specific at all. I don't know how I could even try to check if a vague claim like that is right or wrong. But since they apparently have positive spacex reporting and only say other things are negative then I'm skeptical of significant bias.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Post by direwolf20 »

hluska wrote: post #526
dotancohen wrote: post #488

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What are you talking about? This had absolutely nothing to do with Israel until you injected that.

Israel is a perfect example of what's being talked about — a bully that acts like a victim to gain sympathy so it can bully you further.

GP is Israeli, so of course he thinks of Israel.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Post by direwolf20 »

dotancohen wrote: post #491
embedding-shape wrote: post #386

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> - it heavily promoting the popular-online side of a very controversial subject Any specific examples? I took a quick browse but didn't find anything that fit what you're talking about, and what you're saying is a bit vague (maybe because I'm not from the US). Could you link a specific article and then tell us what exactly is wrong?

I'm not from the US either, but I see much vitriol against their current president and his policies. And not a single article in support.

When one side says it's raining and the other side says it's sunny, it's not the journalist's job to represent both sides. It's their job to look out the window.
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