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Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by analog8374 » Thu, Jan 08, 2026, 2:21 AM UTC

parl_match wrote: post #241

woodruffw wrote: post #236

Of note: the US's per capita consumption of meat has increased by more than 100 pounds over the last century[1]. We now consume an immense amount of meat per person in this country. That increase is disproportionately in poultry, but we also consume more beef[2]. A demand for the average American to eat more meat would have to explain, as a baseline, why our already positive trend in meat consumption isn't yielding p…

I'm a weightlifter and as part of my training, I eat pretty close to about a pound of meat a day during bulk, usually about 12-14oz. This is because I need to eat about 200g of protein a day. I supplement it with protein shakes. I find that to be a challenging amount of meat. It's a lot! And to find out that's average ??? Americans eat way too much meat. Cheese, too.

I'm not a weightlifter but I'm a carpenter. Meat is like a healing potion on my body. Makes the pain go away. And without meat, it doesn't.

Eggs work too.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by cobalt » Thu, Jan 08, 2026, 2:25 AM UTC

jonplackett wrote: post #441

Diet advice is always way too complex. For most people ‘stop drinking sugary drinks ever’ would probably make the biggest life change. And ‘the athletes plate’ would be the runner up bit of advice if you want something simple - half th plate veggies, 1/4 complex carbs, 1/4 unprocessed meat. If you want to do it with complexity, count your macros.

unprocessed meat? as in taking a bite out of a cow?

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by kristopolous » Thu, Jan 08, 2026, 2:26 AM UTC

nhumrich wrote: post #590

kristopolous wrote: post #581

Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK... Here's industry reports https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm... https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio... And straight up lobbying groups https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline... https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p... Lobbying groups, putting out press rel…

Might be corrupt, but is at least closer to truth then the last corrupted version. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of progress

The incentives are wrong. Any good policy for bad incentives is temporary and incidental

This policy selectively emphasizes the most difficult to import foods so it also plays into isolationist nativist policies.

If you think meat lobbying groups just wanted a new triangle and this isn't going to extend to water, land, energy, and environmental policies along with farm subsidies and even merger&acquisition and liability policies, sorry ...

This thing is for them, their profitability and their investors. They didn't lobby on behalf of your personal health...

Open a position on the MOO ETF. I just did. Might as well make some money from it

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by dottjt » Thu, Jan 08, 2026, 2:26 AM UTC

kristopolous wrote: post #581

Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK... Here's industry reports https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm... https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio... And straight up lobbying groups https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline... https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p... Lobbying groups, putting out press rel…

Isn't every single policy a result of some kind of lobby group? Are you saying that it's corrupt because it's been influenced by a lobby group? Would all policies then be corrupt to some degree? Or is it corrupt because you disagree with the lobby group?

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by ehnto » Thu, Jan 08, 2026, 2:27 AM UTC

rainsford wrote: post #547

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #191

For all the lunacy of RFK this somehow is actually a really good set of guidelines? Certainly better than the previous version. I didn't expect that to be honest.

I had a similar reaction. Although I can't help but notice that even in something like this it included the now obligatory combative culture war framing with "we are ending the war on protein".

It must be such a tiring way to live, constantly enflamed in imaginary thought wars.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by skirmish » Thu, Jan 08, 2026, 2:28 AM UTC

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #159

> For decades we've been misled by guidance that prioritized highly-processed food WTF are they talking about?

Food pyramid used to say: "Eat plenty, 6-11 servings of: bread, cereals, pasta".

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by Craighead » Thu, Jan 08, 2026, 2:30 AM UTC

dottjt wrote: post #594

kristopolous wrote: post #581

Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK... Here's industry reports https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm... https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio... And straight up lobbying groups https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline... https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p... Lobbying groups, putting out press rel…

Isn't every single policy a result of some kind of lobby group? Are you saying that it's corrupt because it's been influenced by a lobby group? Would all policies then be corrupt to some degree? Or is it corrupt because you disagree with the lobby group?

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Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by lkbm » Thu, Jan 08, 2026, 2:31 AM UTC

theLegionWithin wrote: post #488

bruceb wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pure partisan spite. The gov't not spending money on candy and sugary drinks is good. Just like when Michelle Obama pushed for better school lunches.

Lol I forgot about that. What was it? Pizza is a vegetable?

Pizza as a vegetable (because of tomato sauce) was California under Reagan. Michelle Obama said to eat healthy and exercise more, though "eat healthy" still used the MyPlate guidelines.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by jayers » Thu, Jan 08, 2026, 2:31 AM UTC

woodruffw wrote: post #236

Of note: the US's per capita consumption of meat has increased by more than 100 pounds over the last century[1]. We now consume an immense amount of meat per person in this country. That increase is disproportionately in poultry, but we also consume more beef[2]. A demand for the average American to eat more meat would have to explain, as a baseline, why our already positive trend in meat consumption isn't yielding p…

Too many calories is the basic explanation for why American's health sucks. Calories available per person has gone up ~32% since the 1960s (we obviously can't measure calories consumed per person, but supply and demand would dictate these excess calories are going somewhere). It is not clear to me that meat specifically is a problem so much as excess consumption leading to obesity, which then causes chronic health problems downstream.

Though of course "meat" is too vague a category to be helpful. Obviously there's a link between beef and heart disease and colorectal cancer. There seems to be no health problems associated with consuming chicken or seafood.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by encomiast » Thu, Jan 08, 2026, 2:34 AM UTC

827a wrote: post #192

I am positively blown away by the work National Design Studio is doing for the Federal Government.

Agreed. This is one of the worst mobile sites I’ve used in a while. Blown away (in the sense I’m never coming back).