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It is nice to see a car company investing in a sensor platform that could actually safely self-drive. It is unfortunate that the existing market participants seem hell-bent on destroying consumer confidence in self-driving before this will make it to market. We desperately need a safety regimen for self-driving cars that takes it as seriously as airplane safety.
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Which begs me the question why Tesla took so long to get here? It's only since v12 it starting to look bearable for supervised use. The only answer I see is their goal to create global model that works in every part of the world vs single city which is vastly more difficult. After all most drivers really only know how to drive well in their own town and make a lot of mistakes when driving somewhere else.
It was only about 2 years ago that they switched from hard coded logic to machine learning (video in, car control out), and this was the beginning of their final path they are committed to now. (building out manufacturing for Cybercab while still finalizing the FSD software is a pretty insane risk that no other company would take)
Autonomy subscriptions are how things are going to go, I called this a long time ago. It makes too much sense in terms of continuous development and operations/support to not have a subscription -- and subscriptions will likely double as insurance at some point in the future (once the car is driving itself 100% of the time, and liability is always with the self driving stack anyway). Of course, people won't like this…
We’d may for updates and new models, but no need for a subscription.
Of course the manufacturer makes more money with a subscription and this is the reason they want it.
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Cars are the cheap part of auto insurance claims.
Only when you are looking at one claim. If all the cars in a city get hail damage the total costs exceed the typical daily claim losses.
And a hailstorm that knocks out 10,000 cars is very rare. But hurricanes or fires that knock out billions in homes happen almost every year.
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I suspect I can get a larger variety of ethnic food of very decent quality in 1 hour in NYC than in 99% of suburbs. Shopping for large items, or large quantities, definitely tends to use suburban land because it's cheaper, and a shopping center uses a lot of it. The cost for the customers is the time to drive there.
Well, NYC is NYC. I live in Baltimore, and if you ask after Chinese, Korean, Indian, or Vietnamese, without specifying city limits, you will be directed to a place in the suburbs with a parking lot (I think this is essentially true of DC as well).
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The United States is freaking huge. By the time modern transportation arrived, people were already living all over the country in pockets every which where. We opted for cars and planes to cover the vast distances. And as it turns out, we have some of the best in the world of both of these - and in vast quantities. We do have dense pockets. NYC, in particular, has a nice metro (it just needs to be cleaner and more mo…
> The United States is freaking huge. By the time modern transportation arrived, people were already living all over the country in pockets every which where. We opted for cars and planes to cover the vast distances. And as it turns out, we have some of the best in the world of both of these - and in vast quantities. You have this narrative precisely backwards. At the risk of pointing out the obvious: the great spraw…
Cars allowed for suburban sprawl but the country was already really spread out before cars.
Maybe if cars didn’t exist we would have eventually consolidated into dense population centers.
You’re right that US cities were large and well populated, but that’s not where most people (60%) of Americans were.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_in_the_United_Sta...
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The United States is freaking huge. By the time modern transportation arrived, people were already living all over the country in pockets every which where. We opted for cars and planes to cover the vast distances. And as it turns out, we have some of the best in the world of both of these - and in vast quantities. We do have dense pockets. NYC, in particular, has a nice metro (it just needs to be cleaner and more mo…
In a way, a fusion of both is possible Autonomous cars that move largely along the same route could form temporary "trains", or rather convoys, moving in a coordinated fashion. That would simplify navigation, reduce chances of accidents, reduce energy consumption, and definitely give the passengers more peace of mind during the commute. Such convoys would split when needed, join together when needed, notify other con…
Not at all. A simple peer to peer protocol based on proximity and mixing in traffic data distributed like the national weather service will do just fine.
These convoys seem like a perfect example of swarm algorithms fitting well where you don’t need a central coordinator.
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I have. A lot of them have trains!
A lot of them don’t. What is your point? How should one visit places without train access like this one? https://maps.app.goo.gl/kgjVaPRdi6zGDQeu6?g_st=ic
Also no one has said that no one is allowed to drive ever again anywhere. I'm trying to be generous but the victim complex is crazy.
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Maybe, but it might just push many would-be car owners to just use a service and forego buying a car altogether. What's the point of paying the capital expense, and a subscription expense for a car vs just calling up a Waymo. The traditional car makers should really be wary as they've historically been terrible at service offerings.
In the next step, somebody will notice that many people drive to the same destination (like a large shopping mall or an airport) and try to offer to take them in the same self-driving car for a discount. Over time those vehicles might grow to seat as may as 30-100 people and stop at multiple destinations
It’s the driving I don’t like.
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In NYC with clean 15+ year driving record my premium is $270 a month after discounts with USAA. Geico, Allstate, Progressive all quote me $400/mo minimum. Have driven everything from old beaters to brand new economy cars with little difference. Friends who also drive are paying around $350/mo on average.
Wow.That a bit high even for NYC. Are you male? I have a join policy with my wife with Geico for $166 a month. This includes upgraded $100,000 liability limit roadside assistance and windshield insurance. I have a crossover/wagon 330 horsepower V6 engine.