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Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by Y-bar »

e40 wrote: post #561
Y-bar wrote: post #437

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Tried it from my iPhone now, but no, paste still does NOT work.

You have the keyboard input up and it doesn't work? You see the text on your phone, but it doesn't appear on the ATV? Never seen that one.

Yes! It doesn’t work at all. This is, as I wrote, that the YouTube app on Apple TV has a custom keyboard on-screen input without any way to put actual focus on the text/password field to trigger the Remote app on the iPhone to enable input such as pasting anything.

For example: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254761316?sortBy=rank

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by array_key_first »

throwaway290 wrote: post #547
kryptiskt wrote: post #409

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Google doesn't care about right and wrong, only what they can get away with. They don't deserve to be treated as a moral subject by you, because they will not reciprocate. You're free to be as shameless as they are in your interactions with them if you can get away with it, you're just playing the game at the same level as they are. I'm paying for Youtube Premium, but its a plain utilitarian decision after they start…

what do you think of people making videos, they deserve to be paid right?

Yes, but ultimately it is not my responsibility to make their business model viable. That's between them and Google - not me.

I am not Google's accountant. They can figure it out.

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Post by fsflover »

fransje26 wrote: post #532
gambiting wrote: post #521

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I mean, it can be done with legislation too. Poland where I'm from used to be absolutely plastered with giant bilboards everywhere you looked, you literally couldn't go anywhere without seeing some ad in your perhipheral vision. But recently a new law was passed that banned all advertising in public spaces unless it's literally a banner above your store, and we suddenly got our public spaces back. It's almost weird n…

Exactly. I'm not from Poland, but this exact example came to mind when writing my comment. Ads are not an inevitability.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43595269

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by Y-bar »

e40 wrote: post #560
zimpenfish wrote: post #425

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> If you have an iPhone you can input with that, including paste. That popping up on your phone is not 100% reliable, though, and even more hilariously, when using it with YouTube, it'll sometimes just take the first handful of characters and drop the text input box on the phone. Oh, how we laughed. (this may be a generic Apple TV problem but it's something I've only noticed on the YouTube app)

Swipe down from the upper right and select the "remote" icon. If it's not there, edit the menu and add it.

The YouTube app I have discovered that feature is the only place it is unavailable in.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by S0y »

If you use Ublock you can add this to your filters to restore a sane number of videos per row:

---

! YouTube 7 Videos Per Row Fix (Home and Channel Pages)

youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row:style(display:contents !important;)

youtube.com###contents.ytd-rich-grid-row:style(display:contents !important;)

youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer:style(--ytd-rich-grid-items-per-row: 7 !important;)

! YouTube 7 Videos Per Row Fix (Channel Page margin fix)

youtube.com##ytd-rich-item-renderer:style(margin-right: calc(var(--ytd-rich-grid-item-margin)/2) !important; margin-left: calc(var(--ytd-rich-grid-item-margin)/2) !important;)

! YouTube 7 Videos Per Row Fix (Font Size fix)

youtube.com###video-title.ytd-rich-grid-media:style(font-size: 1.4rem !important; line-height: 2rem !important;)

youtube.com###metadata-line.ytd-video-meta-block:style(font-size: 1.2rem !important; line-height: 1.8rem !important;)

youtube.com###video-title.ytd-rich-grid-slim-media:style(font-size: 1.4rem !important; line-height: 2rem !important;)

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Post by fsflover »

danpalmer wrote: post #59
tcfhgj wrote: post #40

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Blocking ads is hardly "pirating" content

To be clear, this is not a value judgement. I pirate content sometimes, and I use adblockers, but ad blocking is definitely piracy – you're circumventing the method of paying for content. I realise that online ads have other implications such as tracking that, say, a blu-ray rip downloaded from a torrent doesn't have, but the reason for piracy doesn't change the fact that it is.

> but ad blocking is definitely piracy – you're circumventing the method of paying for content

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45177601

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by throwaway290 »

array_key_first wrote: post #592
throwaway290 wrote: post #547

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what do you think of people making videos, they deserve to be paid right?

Yes, but ultimately it is not my responsibility to make their business model viable. That's between them and Google - not me. I am not Google's accountant. They can figure it out.

It's not your responsibility. That's why Google makes you do it (pay or watch ads). Otherwise they can't pay creators and if they don't get paid then you don't get content you like to watch. Lose lose. So I'd say they kinda figured it out.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by flipgimble »

The content on YouTube should qualify it to be preserved as a treasure of humanity. Think of all the college lectures, conference proceedings, sporting events, citizen journalism, podcasts that are the backbone of new communities and cultural revolutions. It is the modern version of public access TV and expresses a close to compelte spectrum of human interests.

At the same time Google Product Managers (or whatever euphemism for middle management they use at Google) are dumbfoundingly short shighted and myopic. They canibalize and destroy the value of the website to make some engagement or ad numbers go up, persumably in a short term play for promotion. When the consequences of their efforts to enshittify become apparent, they are long gone to another FAANG or moved up to executive level where severance packages mean they suffer no consequences. Its a shame there is no incentive to make the best product for the long term usefullness.

and I've paid full subscription price for a couple of years now to avoid the ads, and I can barely stand what it has evolved into. My screen is 80% games, shorts, "ads" and categories I didn't ask for.

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Post by drdeca »

brokenmachine wrote: post #482
drdeca wrote: post #361

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Do the billboard ads fund the road maintenance? I didn’t think they did. I thought people just bought land next to the road and installed signs there.

Does Google pay for your PC, power or internet connection?

No, but they do pay the costs of hosting/serving the videos, which I thought was the relevant analogy to the service being used when driving on a road and there being billboards next to the road.

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Post by OhMeadhbh »

For the last year I've mostly only been dropping into YouTube just to see how bad it's become. Invidious isn't my favourite bit of software, but it is better than the stock youtube interface. Also, on my ChromeCast (yes, I know it's not supported anymore) the YouTube app will play an ad in the middle of a video and never return to the original video. Most of what I do is look around to find videos that look interesting then download them with yt-dlp so I can watch complete videos.

There's probably a market out there for video hosting that doesn't suck. I think a video search / discovery platform on top of Vimeo might be useful.

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