There are lots of principled arguments about privacy versus growth versus monopoly here. But the reality is: for 95% of people in the EU (or the UK), their only direct experience of GDPR is the cookie banner. They aren't going to understand your subtle arguments about whose fault it is; they know that GDPR came along and they had to click on cookie banners. And they (and I) absolutely hate it.
Europe is scaling back GDPR and relaxing AI laws
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That 50% figure seems extremely dubious. I'd expect either methodological failures, or a definition of "costs" that I disagree with (e.g. fair-competition regulations preventing price-hikes, "costing" EU companies the profit they could obtain from a cartel). However, skimming the report ( https://commission.europa.eu/topics/competitiveness/draghi-r... ), I can't find the 50% figure.
I agree if we look at what has happened to the EU over the last 2 decades the costs have to be much higher. 50% seems optimistic at best for how far behind the EU has gotten.
should you filter out the covid era from that?
coats have gotten higher, but across the board for different countries
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#593The cookie banner is the superficial part. The meat of it is how user data is collected or not and stored or not. Rolling this back would be a catastrophic defeat. Perhaps if there were an automatic cookie preference browser API that could automate the user experience it would be better for users.
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arguably if there was a browser setting for this the current GDPR would require you to respect that setting. But that's arguably, it would still need to adjudicated.
The browser setting already exists (DNT), so I don't know what you want to conlude.
My conclusion would be that under the current GDPR that if someone had the browser setting on, if a company did not respect that setting and kept private data, that they could be reported for GDPR violations and then the issue could be adjudicated, i.e that the courts would then decide if in fact GDPR violations occur by not following that browser setting.
Secondary conclusion - it might be more beneficial if one just contacted the EDPB and said since this browser setting exists and nobody is using it please issue a ruling if the browser setting must be followed, set it to go into effect by this date giving people time to implement it, and if they agreed the browser setting would be adequate to represent your GDPR wishes they might also conclude that it would be an onerous process to make you go through a GDPR acceptance if it were turned on, howe ver as this article is saying that they are "scaling back" the GDPR that would seem to be dead in the water, which is why I said under "the current GDPR".
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That cookie banner needs to be standardized and offered by the browser. It should be like a certificate popup. Why is every website forced into doing a shoddy job ?
How would that even work? The browser has no way to know what a cookie is for.
They are regulating websites anyway, surely they can just invent some standard format to say what function each cookie has. How about requiring that the name of every cookie has to start with one of "Strictly Necessary", "Functional", "Performance", and "Targeting/Advertising"?
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#596Earlier quoted context omitted.
That cookie banner needs to be standardized and offered by the browser. It should be like a certificate popup. Why is every website forced into doing a shoddy job ?
How would that even work? The browser has no way to know what a cookie is for.
It's not the tech that's hard. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2024JulSep...
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I've stopped thinking of regulations as a single dial, where more regulations is bad or less regulations is bad. It entirely depends on what is being regulated and how. Some areas need more regulations, some areas need less. Some areas need altered regulation. Some areas have just the right regulations. Most regulations can be improved, some more than others.
I disagree with this otherwise seemingly reasonable position. Draghi's latest report pointed out that overregulation is a major problem in the EU and costs EU companies the equivalent of a 50% tariff (if I remember correctly). Of course, Draghi's report has led to nothing more than a few headlines.
Ok let’s take this at face value. Not being able to use child labor is a 40%+ tariff.
What have we gained by framing it as such other than an extremely biased take pro unregulated business?
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I strongly agree with this position. This is basically the foundation of Control Theory! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_theory This is like arguing if "heater on" or "AC on" is better, which is a pointless argument. That entirely depends on what the temperature is!
So, you do think “useCase.regulation” being a single dial. It’s a pretty reductive framework. I have an easier framework where in 90% of cases current law was already good enough and we don’t need to tweak that dial
The road to hell is paved with “good enough”.
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#599So no more cookie banners taking up half the screen of every website I load?! Great!