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Re: Google Antigravity

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Lol the second I saw the antigravity release I thought "there's no way I'm using that, they will kill it within a year". Looks like they're trying to kill it at birth.

Exactly my reaction. Every time I've used something from Google, it ends up dead in a few years. Life is too short to waste so many years learning something that is destined to die shortly

These are just extended press releases, for marketing and management layers, who don't have to use these things themselves, but can look good, when talking about it.

Re: Google Antigravity

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I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

This is the result of Google's Windsurf acquisition. I expect huge improvements are still to be made.

Cognition bought Windsurf:

https://windsurf.com/blog/windsurfs-next-chapter

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I tried writing a native Windows app using WinUI 3. I wasted a day on trying to get some PNGs to render correctly, but no matter the config I used, the colors came out wrongly oversaturated. I used Tauri with a WebView, and the app was rendering the images perfectly fine. On top of that the UI looked much better, and I was done in half the time I spend trying to fix the rendering issue in WinUI 3. Never again will I…

To be fair WinUI3 is particularly bad. If you're forced to install a 100MB runtime anyway, might as well make that runtime be a browser.

Since Tauri uses the system's WebView, it shouldn't be that big. The docs say a minimal app could be 600 KB.

Re: Google Antigravity

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I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

Lol the second I saw the antigravity release I thought "there's no way I'm using that, they will kill it within a year". Looks like they're trying to kill it at birth.

agree but at the same time there's not too much lock in with these IDEs these days and switching is very easy. Especially since they're all VSCode forks

Re: Google Antigravity

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I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

I bet if you sign up for Google AI Ultra for a month your limits will disappear.

I'm a Google AI Pro subscriber (the $~20/month one).

I don't think it's connected in any way, though. Their pricing page doesn't mention it. https://antigravity.google/pricing

if it were true, it would be a big miss to not point that out when you run out of credit, in their pricing page, or anywhere in their app.

I should also mention that the first time I prompted it, I got a different 'overloaded' type out of credit message. The one I got at the end was different.

I've rotated on paying the $200/month plans with Anthropic, Cursor, and OpenAI. But never Google's. They have maybe the best raw power in their models - smartest, and extremely fast for what they are. But they always drop the ball on usability. Both in terms of software surrounding the model and raw model attitude. These things matter.

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VSCode is based on Chromium. https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/v...

Which is based on Apple Webkit? The winner is always the last marketable brand.

That drives exactly $0 of Apple's revenue. It's only a win if you care about things that don't matter.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Curious if the name is a reference to https://xkcd.com/353/ > Come join us! Programming is fun again! It's a whole new world up here!

I hope Google is at least acknowledging the origin of the name, even if they are not paying royalties to Randall Monroe.

Don't take my random pondering as any kind of evidence

Re: Google Antigravity

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This is the result of Google's Windsurf acquisition. I expect huge improvements are still to be made.

Cognition bought Windsurf: https://windsurf.com/blog/windsurfs-next-chapter

Google bought people and tech that made Windsurf:

https://windsurf.com/blog/windsurfs-next-stage

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Microsoft has very specific constraints on what extensions can and can't do, it's not a free for all. They're actively defending their mote by allowing Copilot to do things in a way that extensions couldn't. That's why all the serious contenders make a fork, it's simply not possible to have the same integration otherwise.

Which is a bit odd given that Claude code extension in VSCode is by far the best agent integration into a codebase that I know of.

The Claude Code extension on VS Code does very little (too little in my opinion). The integration level with agentic functionality provided by Antigravity goes much deeper in my 20 minutes or so of playing with it. The biggest value pieces I see is: Agent Manager window which provides a unified view of all my agents running across all my workspaces (!) where I can quickly approve or respond to followup questions and quickly brings me to the code in context for each agent, additionally, I can select a piece of code and comment on it inline and that comment gets sent to the correct, active agent. These two things alone are items which I have been looking for... Too bad I only have approval to use Claude Code at work. This looks promising.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Quoting their own video: > You can verify your code quality at a glance, then ship with absolute confidence. Proclaiming absolute confidence after a glance leaves me with scant confident in the merit of the confidence.

I threw up a little in my mouth at "you can verify your code quality at a glance".
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