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Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by illiac786 »

netsharc wrote: post #588
illiac786 wrote: post #526

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Still waiting to see chatcontrol happen. Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t believe it will happen.

As an EU citizen, I never doubt the ability for the EU to do the wrong thing... The current European Commision president: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/zensursula The previous president, Juncker, was the premier who made Luxembourg a taxhaven. Nowadays buying from Amazon in Europe you still get a purchase receipt from Amazon Luxembourg...

I still think we’re better off with the EU than without. Imagine trumps tariff war without the EU. He would have crushed every country individually… The deal is not great but it would have been worse.

I just don’t see how they will enforce it. Will they force telegram and signal to exit the EU app stores? The won’t offer a different app in the EU.

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Post by sherry-sherry »

scineram wrote: post #580
josefresco wrote: post #376

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Are masked Meta employees kidnapping people at gunpoint and deporting them to foreign gulags?

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If they can do so within the rules of the constitution then ok.

But they have been shown to blatantly ignore those, often forcefully kidnapping innocent people and entering homes without warrants.

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Post by sherry-sherry »

scineram wrote: post #577
yieldcrv wrote: post #20

> Authorities said the suspect, Joshua Jahn, searched his phone for tracking apps, including ICEBlock, before opening fire on the facility from a rooftop. Thats weird because you dont need iceblock to know that ICE is at an ICE facility Its for when they’re spotted in neighborhoods dumb rationale, dumb response

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Good.

When ICE are targeting people without valid warrants and without providing due process, ICE should be met with resistance.

People should not be kidnapped, even if by an officer. I’m not sure why you aren’t understanding this.

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Post by netsharc »

illiac786 wrote: post #591
netsharc wrote: post #588

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an EU citizen, I never doubt the ability for the EU to do the wrong thing... The current European Commision president: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/zensursula The previous president, Juncker, was the premier who made Luxembourg a taxhaven. Nowadays buying from Amazon in Europe you still get a purchase receipt from Amazon Luxembourg...

I still think we’re better off with the EU than without. Imagine trumps tariff war without the EU. He would have crushed every country individually… The deal is not great but it would have been worse. I just don’t see how they will enforce it. Will they force telegram and signal to exit the EU app stores? The won’t offer a different app in the EU.

It's better than the shitshow that people like Farage, LePen, Orban, maybe Miloni too, want; but it's still far from great, competent governance...

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Post by onetokeoverthe »

codyb wrote: post #384
diego_moita wrote: post #360

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And it won't affect their branding in any relevant way. As "Amusing Ourselves to Death"[1] would explain, what almost all Apple consumers want is just FaceBook, WhatsApp, memes and games. Anything else is "boooring!". We live in an Idiocracy[2]. Deal with it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amusing_Ourselves_to_Death [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

I've started buying refurb, and will be heavily considering my upcoming electronics purchases. I encourage others to reduce consumption from companies which kowtow to this dangerous administration's demands and rhetoric. I've been boycotting Amazon as best I can for nearly a decade though since they had ambulances outside their warehouses and delivery workers pissing in gatorade bottles but reducing consumption of to…

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Post by idiotsecant »

pcf wrote: post #482
codyb wrote: post #384

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I've started buying refurb, and will be heavily considering my upcoming electronics purchases. I encourage others to reduce consumption from companies which kowtow to this dangerous administration's demands and rhetoric. I've been boycotting Amazon as best I can for nearly a decade though since they had ambulances outside their warehouses and delivery workers pissing in gatorade bottles but reducing consumption of to…

I like the thought, but AFAIK it doesn't really change the bottom line much, as long as you buy a used older product from a brand. Probably because the person selling it is buying a newer model, so you're still helping the company out. I might be wrong, though. But this was the initial conclusion I arrived at when I was researching whether to buy an iPhone 17, iPhone 15 Pro (used) or Android phone. Only the last opti…

That's nonsense. The choice is between you purchasing a new phone or you not purchasing a new phone. It's post hoc justification to assume that your dollars from buying a used unit will be used for something in particular. You made the decision you wanted and then built the logic to support it.

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Post by ratelimitsteve »

docmars wrote: post #539
ratelimitsteve wrote: post #506

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what's illegal about talking to people about what you saw in public?

Give me a break, don't play word games. If you created an app that essentially doxed police and schemed ways to circumvent their ability to enforce the law, I'd hope you would get in trouble for that, especially if it compromised the safety of those you care about, don't you agree?

define doxxing. I saw a guy with a hat on on main st. is telling you that fact doxxing him?

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Post by idiotsecant »

snvzz wrote: post #561
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #3

Methinks this won’t be the last politically-motivated removal from Apple’s App Store; the more apps they remove then the more they weaken their own arguments about how a locked-in walled garden is in consumer interests.

It was an illegal app designed to aid in illegal interference with law enforcement. It is unsurprising for it to get removed, as companies must follow the law.

A) it's not illegal, as evidenced by the fact that not a single person has been prosecuted. There is no law being broken, just the feel-feels of the surveillance state getting hurt.

B) Even if there was a law, its the duty of every American to disobey unjust laws. The government serves at the pleasure of the people, not the other way around. There are a lot of people getting awfully comfortable with weak men ordering other jack booted weak men to systematically tear down what actually makes America great. I thought we settled this last time, but maybe we need to revisit the issue.

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