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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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> People were pissed once they figured out that private conversations were uploading love to the internet. Audio is different from video. This is technically illegal, as consent is explicitly required in the law for audio recording.

Which jurisdiction are you taking? Japan? Christmas Island? Cuba?

11 states in the US have two-party-consent laws. IIRC GP is correct about recordings of private conversations in these states.

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People like the guy I encountered are basically allergic to discomfort of any kind. Even the slightest inconvenience in their lives is seen as an incredibly personal and intolerable affront to their liberty, and they want to make damn sure we all know about it at every possible opportunity! Hence the behavior. If I were to compare it to a client relationship, it’s the kind of person who throws the contract in a partn…

> Reasonable people know you only start pointing to the contract when things escalate to a certain point as it locks everybody into a defensive posture and now everybody is going to be rigid moving forward. First, and arguably most important, thing in learned in tech & business. Once the contracts come out, it's game over.

I know when I freelanced if somebody started frivolously pointing to the contract I immediately determined I wasn’t working with them anymore afterwards. Luckily I can only recall like two times that happened

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Everything has moved to private spaces now. Friend discord groups, private social media accounts, etc. The age of posting on Facebook under your real name with privacy settings public is long gone because of the numerous obvious risks. But just being seen in a small segment of a YouTube video with no name is a pretty minor risk.

"The age of posting on Facebook under your real name with privacy settings public is long gone" According to my 18 year old niece, FB is just for old people anyway. (Thank god I never really used it). They still use Instagram, though. Privacy concerns .. are little in general. Hard to be popular, when you avoid the mainstream plattforms. And yes, private groups are on the rise everywhere.

Yeah, kinda happened like a decade-plus ago, when facebook opened up to everyone. I know I stopped using it when my parents (baby boomers) got on there.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Most gyms it shouldn't be that hard to take useful pictures without people in them though? Do pictures of classes add anything?

> Most gyms it shouldn't be that hard to take useful pictures without people in them though? Or much simpler: when the photos of a class are taken, simply ask beforehand who disagrees with being photographed and/or photos containing him/her made public, so that for those few minutes where the photos are taken, these people can get out of the picture.

Better yet, offer a free class to people who don't mind being photographed (of whom there are many). 'Being part of a company's marketing' isn't something that should be included in the price of a product or service.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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It is funny how insular and US centric many of the comments here are. In fact many countries do have legislation requiring consent in many scenarios for photographing or publishing photos. And it turns out that it is not actually very problematic. Wikimedia has some examples, but I'm sure it is not comprehensive: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Country_specific_...

Not really, other European countries also have the "don't participate if you don't want to be filmed" mentality. E.g. author says: > But then I’ve seen the same at (private) conference I've been to many such conferences, and they all make it very clear that all the photos can be taken and used in advertising by anyone, both in agreements as well as entrance banners. Same as in US.

Some conferences I've attended provide stickers to put on your badge and if you don't want to be photographed/published the conference organizers may pay attention with respect to their publicity photos. Of course, others snapping pics with their cell phones may not. (And, in Germany as well as other countries, I've never seen explicit warnings about not publishing photos of people at a conference without permission.).

Most people are pretty reasonable and aren't aggressive with their picture taking. But there are almost certainly photos of you online whatever the local country laws may say.

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It is not a generational thing at all. There were plenty of TV shows centred around candid camera / security camera / home video footage back in the 1980s/1990s well before digital cameras or the internet was ubiquitous.

Or look at newsreels, or news reports from ... any time up to the 2010s. Obviously people's faces weren't blurred before we had the tech to do it. It's some entirely new, modern prissiness. It screws up the documenting of social history when you can't see any faces. There's been an internet fad for restored film of street scenes from 1915 or so: imagine if all the faces were blurred to protect the privacy of people w…

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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>>Publishing someone’s photo online, without their consent, without another strong justification, just because they happen to be in view of one’s camera lens, feels wrong to me If you don't want someone to make a record of the photons that arrive at a particular place because those photons bounced off you, then don't let them go out into the world far beyond your private space.

Why are you trying to dehumanize the idea of taking a picture of someone and possibly posting it publicly by referring to it as photons? Yes we are all just atoms moving around in 3D space but it doesn't take away the fact that people should be allowed to exist outside their house without some random person recording them and possibly posting it to the internet. You don't care and that is totally fine but some people…

I'm not dehumanizing it, I'm making it clear that photography is generally a passive activity. Where's the line between "don't record me" and "don't look at me"? If it's ok you look at you, but not record you, where's the line? Can someone use a telescope to look at you? Can a store have a camera and a live TV view of all the people who walk in? Can there be a live camera that captures the people on a sidewalk and display it on a giant billboard on the side of a building? If you're at a sporting event can they aim a camera at you in the crowd and put you on the jumbotron? These are all amplifications of visibility, which ones are allowed and which are not. And why should you be able to insist on the absolute bare minimum of noticeability when you are out in public?

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

Sadly the problem is only going to become bigger with upcoming smart glasses once masses adopt it, everyone will be recording each other without consent.

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Basic human decency. Just as the author says: “Publishing someone’s photo online, without their consent, without another strong justification, just because they happen to be in view of one’s camera lens, feels wrong to me.” It doesn’t fall to the legal level, but a social rules level. People who obnoxiously recording people in public, even if 100% legal, and disregard the wishes and conform of others around them dese…

>Basic human decency. You've got a very large, diverse population without a strong social identity and ever-fraying trust. So you won't consistently get basic human decency any longer. That's something which is extended to the in-group with which you have real social ties and obligations. Most people don't have this any longer.

> So you won't consistently get basic human decency any longer. That's something which is extended to the in-group with which you have real social ties and obligations.

This is nonsense. People started taking photos of crowds almost as soon as the camera was invented.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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It is not a generational thing at all. There were plenty of TV shows centred around candid camera / security camera / home video footage back in the 1980s/1990s well before digital cameras or the internet was ubiquitous.

I mean, I feel like the mindset of privacy and no one can have photos of me is a fairly recent phenomenon. Parents or grandparents definitely had books photos of everyone important to them and probably would have found it weird for someone to ask not to be photographed.

Those photos would have been taken with the understanding that they woupd have ended up in Grandma's album, maybe flipped through a few times, but never spread far and wide. The stakes change quite a lot if those photos can be published.
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