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Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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Post by perlgeek »

GMoromisato wrote: post #149

If you are an author here are a couple of relevant links: You can search LibGen by author to see if your work is included. I believe this would make you a member of the class: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/03/searc... If you are a member of the class (or think you are) you can submit your contact information to the plaintiff's attorneys here: https://www.anthropiccopyrightsettlement.com/

Thank you! I hadn't even thought that I could be affected, but I have written some programming books, and some of them show up on libgen. I've submitted my contact info, maybe something will come out of this...

Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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Post by arduanika »

Let us not forget that this one is the good, ethical AI company. The one founded by splinter AI safety cultists who thought that OpenAI wasn't deep enough in the safety cult for their liking. And here they are, keeping the humans safe. By robbing them.

Because it turns out that nobody in the whole safety cult cares a whit for the human mind, the human experience, human art. Maybe for something they call "human values" in some abstract thought experiment, but never for any human decency. No, the human mind is just ones and zeros, just like a computer, no soul and no spark, to people in the cult. The cult thinks that an LLM reading a book is just the same mechanically as a human reading it.

Your brain is just emergence, your honor. Fair use. Blah blah Dennett Hofstadter Yudkowsky.

Do you feel safe?

Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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Post by JustExAWS »

troupo wrote: post #579
JustExAWS wrote: post #481

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Society” should have things like universal healthcare like every other industrial country in the world. The US is the only country with an ass backwards system where you are dependent on your employer for health benefits.

But that's the thing, isn't it? Universal healthcare isn't magic. It's paid for by taxes. Yet Uber claimed its drivers where independent contractors that had to pay for anything: taxes, medical, insurance, car depreciation etc. etc.

And that’s fine. Uber drivers should pay taxes and Uber itself pays taxes - or at least should.

And the drivers have the free will to choose to drive for Uber.

Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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Post by pennomi »

arduanika wrote: post #593

Let us not forget that this one is the good, ethical AI company. The one founded by splinter AI safety cultists who thought that OpenAI wasn't deep enough in the safety cult for their liking. And here they are, keeping the humans safe. By robbing them. Because it turns out that nobody in the whole safety cult cares a whit for the human mind, the human experience, human art. Maybe for something they call "human values…

I don’t think that copyright is related to safety at all. Copyright is something that doesn’t really exist, except as a social agreement, while safety is something that exists whether or not society believes it does.

Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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Post by arduanika »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #34

Great. Which rich person is going to jail for breaking the law?

Well their seed funder SBF went to jail, but not for bankrolling this particular theft. He did a theft of his own. Still, SBF and the Anthropic guys got their "ethics" from the same shitty blogs, and it shows.

Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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Post by storf45 »

spwa4 wrote: post #575
kelnos wrote: post #545

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get why we look on Uber with disdain today. They're the big rich behemoths who treat drivers poorly, previously had a CEO who was a raging asshole, and have now raised their prices (gasp!) to a level that they need to be for a sustainable business. But I remember when I started using Uber back in 2012. It was amazing compared to every single other option out there. Yes, they entered the market in questionably-legal…

Yes ... THAT was when governments should have stepped in and prevented uber from undercutting taxi drivers with investor money. As pointed out here, many governments have laws stating that they will step in ... and they didn't.

Do you feel like the taxi medallion system was a better regulatory mechanism than what is currently in place?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_medallion

Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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Post by codedokode »

Is this legal: scan billions of pirated books, train a LLM on them and generate billion public domain books with it so that nobody ever needs copyrighted books anymore?

Also if there is a software library with annoying Stallman-style license, can one use LLM to generate a compatible library but in a public domain or with commercial license? So that nobody needs to respect software licenses anymore? Can we also generate a free Photoshop, Linux kernel and Windows this way?

Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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Post by NovemberWhiskey »

InCom-0 wrote: post #567
NovemberWhiskey wrote: post #549

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Classic indications of a cartel (in the economic sense) are deliberate limitations of supply and fixing of prices through collusion. I don’t know about other cities, but NYC absolutely had a taxi cartel.

This is true ... except that it is simplistically naive way of looking at things, because this is just one form (out of many) of anti-competitive practices. It is essentially high-school level elementary basics of anti-trust. In actual reality there is quite a bit more to it than that. For instance: Monopolies often don't actually limit supply. You only make it so customers can't choose an alternative and set prices…

So - putting aside the other waffle and snide remarks - you’re agreeing with me that, in NYC at least, taxis were operated as a cartel?

Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors

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Post by luqtas »

nromiun wrote: post #588
gordian-mind wrote: post #548

After the book publishers burned Google Book's Library of Alexandria, they are now making it impossible to train a LLM unless you engage in the medieval process of manually buying paper-copies of work just to scan & destroy them...

If they wanted a copyright free world maybe they should publish all their models as copyright free as well. But they are not doing it are they?

don't come up with logics defending the proletarian /s
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