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Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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So what's the solution? What's the reaction of semiofficial Android forks? Should we switch to Huawei now? Should we then have two phones? One with Android fork and one with some other "official" OS?

I would presume that open source android distributions can get around this. Like LineageOS and GrapheneOS. Hopefully this change will give them more popularity. But I assume Google is also trying to lock down hardware so you can't install anything else than their propietary Android.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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Every day we stray farther from the premise that we should be allowed to install / modify software on the computers we own. Will once again re-up the concept of a “right to root access”, to prevent big corps from pulling this bs over and over again: https://medhir.com/blog/right-to-root-access

In the meantime, corporate is thinking about locking browsers down. Remember this? https://chromestatus.com/feature/5796524191121408 They’ll try again, with big business and governments cheering on them.

> They’ll try again, with big business and governments cheering on them.

No doubt. They only have to win once. We have to keep defending our own freedoms against non-stop assault until the end of time.

I'm so tired and disillusioned.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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DO NOT UPLOAD YOUR ID/INFO TO GOOGLE. I put my game on their app store some years ago, and they doxxed me right on the app store. Google posted my name and home address right on the game page. Not great when I was already receiving death threats! Later on, had a rando show up at 3AM one night and had to call the cops out. I moved after that. Google is absolutely not to be trusted to keep this data confidential. If Go…

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Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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post #407

Every day we stray farther from the premise that we should be allowed to install / modify software on the computers we own. Will once again re-up the concept of a “right to root access”, to prevent big corps from pulling this bs over and over again: https://medhir.com/blog/right-to-root-access

The question really isn't whether we should be able to modify computers we own, its whether we own them at all.

And the answer is we don't. If we can't run our own software, then we do not own the computer. To run software of our choosing we need the cryptographic keys to the machine and we sure as hell don't own those keys.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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Android is dead. With fascism now in power in the US I was going to save myself by degoogling my life anyway. This is the nail in Android's coffin for me.

Likewise. I've jumped ship from Chrome to Floorp/Firefox mobile, after 15 years.

The problem is, where do we go now, from Android?

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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The funny thing is Stallman started his fight like half a century ago and on regular days Hacker News shits on him eating something off of his foot and not being polished and diplomatic, and loves practical aspects of Corporate Open Source and gratis goodies and doesn't particularly care about Free Software. On this day suddenly folks come out of the woodwork advocating for half baked measures to achieve what Stallma…

It's possible to believe both that Stallman is over the top and that stuff like this Google action is bad, and even to be right on both. It's even easier to believe that Stallman has had some good ideas but is still a deeply flawed human being, and has also incidentally not been the most effective advocate for his own ideals.

It's easy to piss on the individual.

Ask yourself how come free software is everywhere, with licenses for various stuff neatly tucked away out of sight unless you're trying to find it, not to mention all the giant clusters of Linux machines in data centers running Samba, PostgreSQL, and all sorts of free software, and at the same time the FSF still has just a small appartment on the 5th floor of a building in Boston?

Here, take a look: https://www.fsf.org/about/contact/tour-2010

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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> The requirement will go into effect in September 2026 for users in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand. Google notes how these countries have been “specifically impacted by these forms of fraudulent app scams.” Verification will then apply globally from 2027 onwards. At least most of the world has until 2027 to install LineageOS or GrapheneOS.

We all know that's not going to happen, outside of our tiny bubble.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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post #503

The funny thing is Stallman started his fight like half a century ago and on regular days Hacker News shits on him eating something off of his foot and not being polished and diplomatic, and loves practical aspects of Corporate Open Source and gratis goodies and doesn't particularly care about Free Software. On this day suddenly folks come out of the woodwork advocating for half baked measures to achieve what Stallma…

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I don't think I can come up with a worse reason to build an opinion on someone than not following the orthodoxy in the extremely stupid context of culture wars.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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If this is a thing then the solution they offer is incorrect. A big giant red screen: “warning the identity of this application developer has not been verified and this could be an application stealing your data, etc” would have worked. What they want is to get rid of apps like YouTube Vanced that are making them lose money (and other Play Store apps)

You can just use the browser an ublock to browse youtube
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