Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

cpb.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

591–600 of 646 posts

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

#591

Post by WalterBright »

toomanyrichies wrote: post #585
WalterBright wrote: post #563

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if you want those fees waived, you’ll have to file a waiver and then wait for it to be approved. Oh, the horror! Do you know that to get government services, you also have to file a form and wait for it to be approved?

Nice cherry-picking. Your post framed it like Musk was Father Christmas, handing out gifts to needy kids. It’s more like Columbia House [1] for internet access, and targeting hurricane victims to boot. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_House

FEMA failed, and Musk stepped in to help.

If people didn't like Musk, nobody made them do business with him.

Complaining that someone would have to fill out a form to get free money is not a compelling argument.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

#592

Post by WalterBright »

ethbr1 wrote: post #538
WalterBright wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I was in a place without internet streaming, I'd get Starlink.

Starlink: $600 + $120/month Radio: $20 + $0/month

My Comcast monthly cable bill is more than that.

And how much is your cell phone bill?

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

#593

Post by toomanyrichies »

WalterBright wrote: post #591
toomanyrichies wrote: post #585

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice cherry-picking. Your post framed it like Musk was Father Christmas, handing out gifts to needy kids. It’s more like Columbia House [1] for internet access, and targeting hurricane victims to boot. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_House

FEMA failed, and Musk stepped in to help. If people didn't like Musk, nobody made them do business with him. Complaining that someone would have to fill out a form to get free money is not a compelling argument.

So “help” and “buyer beware” are now synonyms. Got it.

> Complaining that someone would have to fill out a form to get free money is not a compelling argument.

Again, A+ effort on the cherry-picking. I call BS on the expectation that hurricane victims will read the fine print about a $120/month rate increase after they’ve just lost their homes. If Musk’s goal is to “help” hurricane victims, maybe he can offer them something better than a bait-and-switch.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

#594

Post by shakes_mcjunkie »

hnburnsy wrote: post #539
nabwodahs wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you cite specific examples of this "bias?"

Adam Carolla was interviewed by NPR and tried to Gotcha him by saying he said racist comments against Asians, but the comments were from an Asian comedian. NPR canned the interview and never aired it, despite telling him they would air it.

You know Asians can be racist against Asians right?

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

#595

Post by rectang »

autoexec wrote: post #414
rectang wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m socially liberal by American standards, but on the subject of government funding for media I feel like a small-c conservative. Government funded media faces constant pressure to become propaganda. I’m rather looking forward to public radio programming that would strike you as liberally biased, now that public radio productions no longer have to please Republicans in government.

Do you have examples where PBS or NPR were forced by the government to spew maga talking points? You'd think that if public media in the US were busy pleasing Republicans all day and all night they wouldn't have had their funding cut

It's not like "spewing maga talking points" is the only way to show fealty — accepting Republican framing of issues suffices, such as "the national debt is a problem so the only option is to cut entitlements". The joke goes that "NPR stands for Nice Polite Republicans".

I look forward to at least some of public radio going full pinko commie since Republican as a group have spent so much time demonizing them. With the government funding gone, there's no point in trying to stay in Republican good graces when public radio's listeners and donors are elsewhere.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

#596

Post by onepremise »

spencerflem wrote: post #479
onepremise wrote: post #82

Again, it's all part of the plan, which is referred to as the butterfly revolution, by Curtis Yarvin. Leaders that have literally invested in this platform are buying into this nonsense. These guys have polarized the two parties to a point all weaknesses are surfacing. It isn't about democrats vs republicans. It's just working class vs the billionaires. You know the ppl sitting behind Trump at his inauguration. Liter…

I appreciate your response and agree with it, but don’t quite get the emphasis on polarization. They don’t want two polarized media sources, they want one completely controlled propaganda source. And I don’t see how it’s playing into their hands or something being “polarized” against billionaires and trump supporters.

Yarvin and Srinivasan have been described as favoring deliberate polarization to destabilizing established narratives. The intent is to surface competing extremes. They view polarizing media as a way of delegitimizing our current framework of government. Yarvin specifically proposes the deconstruction, even abolition, of current democratic institutions, replacing them with a CEO-led or monarchist. Their intent is to accelerate the cycle of systemic breakdown and renewal, so their version of autocracy can emerge in the vacuum.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

#597

Post by throwawa14223 »

bix6 wrote: post #561
throwawa14223 wrote: post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes the government should just not say anything but this is not dependent on X existing or not existing.

So the current government will stop talking as well then?

This is a step towards that which is a step in the right direction.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

#598

Post by spencerflem »

onepremise wrote: post #596
spencerflem wrote: post #479

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I appreciate your response and agree with it, but don’t quite get the emphasis on polarization. They don’t want two polarized media sources, they want one completely controlled propaganda source. And I don’t see how it’s playing into their hands or something being “polarized” against billionaires and trump supporters.

Yarvin and Srinivasan have been described as favoring deliberate polarization to destabilizing established narratives. The intent is to surface competing extremes. They view polarizing media as a way of delegitimizing our current framework of government. Yarvin specifically proposes the deconstruction, even abolition, of current democratic institutions, replacing them with a CEO-led or monarchist. Their intent is to…

Oh totally, again 100% with you that they are intentionally (and sadly it seems, successfully) breaking down democracy in the US and elsewhere.

I also believe that there is astroturfing in online comment sections and occasionally embedded agents in opposition movements to push extreme and hostile "wedge" views that would split otherwise potential allies.

But a lot of it is natural resistance to being attacked- Am I "polarized" against Trump and Trump voters because of a deliberate campaign, or because they are working to make my life unlivable, y'know? That sort of polarization I don't really have a problem with.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

#599

Post by adgjlsfhk1 »

tptacek wrote: post #428
potatocoffee wrote: post #425

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watch OTA television.

I listen to linear NPR. But I know what the statistics are. None of this is going to be here 20 years from now.

the important thing about 20 years from now is that it isn't now

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations

#600

Post by marsupial »

philistine wrote: post #396
dh2022 wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NPR was not rightward this past election, for sure. I don’t think NPR missed to report a single Kamala endorsement last fall.

OP is arguing nuances, and you seem to be intent to distill everything to a binary construct. Nuances are what runs the world, not binary groups.

[dead]
Post reply on HN