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Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by sitkack »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #571
sitkack wrote: post #535

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Six months from now, that singular worker if they are still employed, will manage a high number of receptionist avatars. And then they themselves will be replaced. It will still lead to a massive collapse in the labor market and with all of that excess labor, existing jobs while being overworked will still see flat to decreasing wages.

You overestimate how chatbots can replace people.

Most people underestimate how strongly capital wants to displace labor, even if the outcomes are demonstrably worse. Esp in a captured scenario like hotel reception, you have already booked, you aren't going anywhere else.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

sitkack wrote: post #591
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #571

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You overestimate how chatbots can replace people.

Most people underestimate how strongly capital wants to displace labor, even if the outcomes are demonstrably worse. Esp in a captured scenario like hotel reception, you have already booked, you aren't going anywhere else.

If that were true, automatic coffee vending machines would have made baristas unemployed a long time age.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by Archer6621 »

ModernMech wrote: post #520
ako wrote: post #494

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I don't agree, to me switching from hand coded source code to ai coded source code is like going from a hand-saw to an electric-saw for your woodworking projects. In the end you still have to know woodworking, but you experiment much more, so you learn more. Or maybe it's more like going from analog photography to digital photography. Whatever it is, you get more programming done. Just like when you go from assembly…

> to me Key words there. To you, it's a electric saw because you already know how to program, and that's the other person's point; it doesn't necessarily empower people to build software. You? Yes. Generally though when you hand the public an electric saw and say "have at it, build stuff" you end up with a lot of lost appendages. Sadly, in this case the "lost appendages" are going to be man-decades of time spent undo…

Your last point is also something that happened when the big game engines such as Unity became free to use. All of a sudden, Steam Greenlight was getting flooded with gems such as "potato peeling simulator" et al. I suppose it is just a natural side effect of making things more accessible.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by elAhmo »

actinium226 wrote: post #455
elAhmo wrote: post #214

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Simple task of unzipping with tar is cryptic enough that collecting unix scripts from random people is definitely something people don't want to do in 2025.

It's cryptic until you sit down to learn it tar xzvf -> "tar eXtract Zipped Verbose File " tar czvf -> "tar Compress Zipped Verbose File " So it's either x or c if you want to unzip a tar file or create one Add z if the thing you're uncompressing ends in .gz, or if you want the thing you're creating to be compressed. v is just if you want the filenames to be printed to stdout as they're extracted or imported f tells…

You writing that much for a task that is equivalent of double clicking on a zip file is exactly my point

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by a5c11 »

cheschire wrote: post #481
a5c11 wrote: post #477

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There is also a group of engineers who like to... engineer stuff? I really do enjoy writing codes by myself, it gives me dopamine. The reason I've learnt talking to machines is that I don't like talking to people, so I don't fancy talking to machines like they were human beings.

If you don't see how that fits into "group 2" in GP's comment even though it wasn't explicitly called out, then we may have identifed why you don't find agentic coding to be enjoyable.

That's true, I really don't enjoy expressing my ideas in natural language because I already see them as code in my head. So, what's the point of translating the code in my head to human language to produce the code? I can just write the code, lol. Vim shortcuts + two-hands typing and you are fast enough.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by cheschire »

a5c11 wrote: post #595
cheschire wrote: post #481

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If you don't see how that fits into "group 2" in GP's comment even though it wasn't explicitly called out, then we may have identifed why you don't find agentic coding to be enjoyable.

That's true, I really don't enjoy expressing my ideas in natural language because I already see them as code in my head. So, what's the point of translating the code in my head to human language to produce the code? I can just write the code, lol. Vim shortcuts + two-hands typing and you are fast enough.

Have you considered writing code to the agent? It doesn’t have to be natural language.

When you start to integrate MCPs it feels especially like programming in a new language. You basically end up adding commands to your tool.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by a5c11 »

cheschire wrote: post #596
a5c11 wrote: post #595

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That's true, I really don't enjoy expressing my ideas in natural language because I already see them as code in my head. So, what's the point of translating the code in my head to human language to produce the code? I can just write the code, lol. Vim shortcuts + two-hands typing and you are fast enough.

Have you considered writing code to the agent? It doesn’t have to be natural language. When you start to integrate MCPs it feels especially like programming in a new language. You basically end up adding commands to your tool.

I already know like five of them, it's more than enough to write anything my weird brain comes up with :D. I'm fine with the setup I have now, if I ever would have to use agentic coding because my employer would demand doing things faster, for the pure sake of doing things faster, I will just quit. If everyone started demanding that, I will just say "goodbye" to my IT career for good because that wouldn't be fun anymore; yet another white collar job.

It's only about me having fun from coding. The low-level stuff is the most fun part. I don't know why is it so hard to swallow pill.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by cheschire »

a5c11 wrote: post #597
cheschire wrote: post #596

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Have you considered writing code to the agent? It doesn’t have to be natural language. When you start to integrate MCPs it feels especially like programming in a new language. You basically end up adding commands to your tool.

I already know like five of them, it's more than enough to write anything my weird brain comes up with :D. I'm fine with the setup I have now, if I ever would have to use agentic coding because my employer would demand doing things faster, for the pure sake of doing things faster, I will just quit. If everyone started demanding that, I will just say "goodbye" to my IT career for good because that wouldn't be fun anym…

I think you might have identified where it would help you the most then.

So if your preference is to avoid high level stuff then genetic coding may be useful for, as an example, updating your suite of tests after a major refactoring. Or if you have no tests because that may not be your style, then generating some robust test scripts might be a good use case.

Or maybe you create one good test but you need to expand it with a lot of various alternative edge cases. Agents can generate the edge cases for you based on the test you already wrote.

Or writing high level plumbing like checking if the scopes are all correct still in your dependency injection scaffolding. Etc

It sounds like you’re highly defensive of the part of your job you like, which is commendable of course, but there may be opportunity to improve the parts you don’t like.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by SparkyMcUnicorn »

skydhash wrote: post #305
SparkyMcUnicorn wrote: post #289

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Remembering one thing is easy, remembering all the things is not. With an agentic CLI I don't need to remember anything, other than if it looks safe or not.

No one remember all the things. It's usually ctrl+r (history search) or write it down in some script or alias.

But I still need to remember what to search for, and they're not always straight forward. The agent writes and organizes the scripts/commands I use frequently, and references them as a starting point. It all started by having an agent look at my shell history.

It's faster than I am, and it knows things like ffmpeg flags I don't care to memorize.

Even opencode running on a local model is decent at this.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by bamboozled »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #555
bamboozled wrote: post #484

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Initially I loved it, overtime I agree with people that call it a slot machine, unless you’re very deliberate with it, it’d just that. Gambling.

This isn’t a fair representation at all. I’ve been delighting all of my tedious tasks with as much context as I would give a person, and my personal win rate at this is substantially higher than I expected. If you give it trash and expect gold, sure, gambling.

Which is what I meant by, "you need to be very deliberate with it", you have to spend a lot of time on the inputs to get good outputs. Which makes it feel a fair bit less like "Intelligence" and a lot more like a calculator.
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