OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

Post by tsimionescu » Sat, Jul 12, 2025, 6:45 PM UTC

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Not really, it's possible with any market economy, even a hypothetical socialist one (that is, one where all market actors are worker-owned co-ops). And, since there is no global super-state, the world economy is a market economy, so even if every state were a state-owned planned economy, North Korea style, still there would exist this type of competition between states.

Worker owned coops are not socialist unless the government forces it.

Post by immibis » Sat, Jul 12, 2025, 7:07 PM UTC

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>Cursor just committed mass consumer fraud at worst, and at best pissed off all their best customers. What happened?

flip-flopping on pricing has led users to feel nickel-and-dimed i like cursor fine, but check out the forum/subreddit to see people talking like addicts, pissed their fix is getting more expensive i think this aggressive reaction is more pronounced for non-programmers who are making things for the first time. they tasted a new power and they don't want it taken away.

Post by imiric » Sat, Jul 12, 2025, 7:20 PM UTC

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Those are exactly the kind of AI slop products I would expect to be vibe coded. You've created yet another wrapper around LLM APIs where the business model is charging a premium over existing services. Your revenue depends on the ignorance of customers to not realize they can get the same or better service for cheaper from companies that actually do the hard work. I bet SEO hacking is really important to you. It's ir…

> yet another wrapper around LLM APIs Patio11 famously built, ran for a number of years (profitably) and then sold a "wrapper for a random number generator" (bingocardcreator.com) Value is in the eye of the beholder, and only tangentially related to the technical complexity or ingenuity.

Post by aquariusDue » Sat, Jul 12, 2025, 7:31 PM UTC

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When I setup systems, I thoroughly document them, test them, develop them according to architectural best practices. My AI assisted code generation is lightyears ahead of what I see in companies I have worked for. The best they —the companies—-do is hire expensive consultants. Who sell them preconfigured system. And when you look into those systems you won’t believe your eyes either. Because you instantly realise tha…

did i miss it or did you still not answer > Who's reviewing all the code you are churning out with ai?

Post by aquariusDue » Sat, Jul 12, 2025, 7:41 PM UTC

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> yet another wrapper around LLM APIs Patio11 famously built, ran for a number of years (profitably) and then sold a "wrapper for a random number generator" (bingocardcreator.com) Value is in the eye of the beholder, and only tangentially related to the technical complexity or ingenuity.

I'm not arguing in favor of technical complexity or ingenuity. My point is that the perceived value of a service or product is directly related to its competitive advantage, product differentiation, and so on. When the service is made from the same cookie cutter template as all the others, the only value that can be extracted from it is by duping customers who don't know better. There are entire industries flooded wi…