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Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by JCattheATM »

Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

> If illegal immigration is such a problem,

It isn't remotely the problem or even in the same galaxy as needing this type of response.

The cause for the actions is racism. The protests are due to calling out racism and removing due process.

Anything else is denial or sophistry, that's the simple truth.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by twic »

drewcoo wrote: post #263
jxjnskkzxxhx wrote: post #223

There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state. The other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

The reason is Posse Comitatus. It's in place because enough people were fed up with federal troops being used to impose "law." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

I love that the navy wasn't covered until 2021. So although the president can't send in the troops, Trident is a-ok!

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by swat535 »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #480
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #417

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't post-pandemic Canada have the highest rate of legal immigration in years since government gives out immigration visas like candy? I can't see how this is good in a country that already has a stagnating economy and a housing crisis. You're eroding the bargaining power of local labor and increasing competition for housing in an already tight market.

They were slow to let off the gas pedal after the labour shortages during COVID. There's been a massive swing in the other direction now.

There has been a massive swing? They announced a small reduction and called it a day.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by righthand »

falcor84 wrote: post #563
snarf21 wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the whole platform is about Othering. The greatest trick the rich ever pulled was convincing the middle class that the poor are the cause of all their problems.

I'm confused. I don't recall anyone ever saying that we need to get rid of the poor, but rather that we should try to make conditions better for everyone such that fewer people are poor. Did I miss my scheduled indoctrination message?

Go ask the same people railing about immigrants, what their thoughts on homeless people might be.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by thesuitonym »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #472

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Let's not blame the victims here. LA had it's problems but it wasn't a warzone until militarized police showed up. All it takes for a protest to become a riot is one cop firing into the crowd, and that could be caused because of a trigger happy cop, or a single person throwing a rock at the police line.

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Post by coldpie »

typeofhuman wrote: post #536
bufferoverflow wrote: post #472

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You (intentionally?) forgot to include the acts of violence that kicked all of this off: the government abducting, arresting, and deporting our neighbors. There were, and are, many other options available to the government that would not have lead to this escalation & violence.

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Post by matt-attack »

Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

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Post by blargey »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #390
lordnacho wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I hate to disparage a large group of people, but how often have you spoken to an American who understands this type of social-legal history of the country, and values it? Although I know quite a lot of (what I consider) well-educated Americans, it is also the only country from which I regularly meet the type of person who doesn't care at all about how society works (also, technology, history, art, etc). You'll p…

> Well I hate to disparage a large group of people, but how often have you spoken to an American who understands this type of social-legal history of the country, and values it? Quite often, and the answer is not many. It's why I've returned to a frankly elitist worldview, because this seems to be a historical pattern when power is diffused too widely. The lesson of our age may be that the Chinese political system, w…

The political system that brought us Wolf Warrior Diplomacy? Being an authoritarian uniparty doesn’t make them immune to seeking political capital one way or another, and they’ve dipped into the “encouraging jingoistic nationalism” part of that playbook plenty.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by bufferoverflow »

thesuitonym wrote: post #596
bufferoverflow wrote: post #472

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Let's not blame the victims here. LA had it's problems but it wasn't a warzone until militarized police showed up. All it takes for a protest to become a riot is one cop firing into the crowd, and that could be caused because of a trigger happy cop, or a single person throwing a rock at the police line.

Oh yeah, it's totally the police that forced the poor democrats to burn cars, to throw bricks, to break in and loot stores. What a believable narrative.
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