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Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by electrograv »

senordevnyc wrote: post #425
electrograv wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s deeply flawed logic at best (or an intentional red herring at worst) to cite the existence of pseudoscience discussed elsewhere, as an argument against real science being discussed here. There is a well-understood science to both auditory and visual perception, even more concretely so for the visual side. The scientific literature on human perception in both categories is actively used in the engineering of almo…

It's not about whether people can perceive the difference. They don't care.

That’s why I specifically emphasized “perception and preferences”. Believe it or not, the science covers both - both what people can perceive, and what people care about and value.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by duchenne »

ruuda wrote: post #247

My 4-year old Dell XPS 15 is up for replacement, but somehow no manufacturer aside from Apple is making laptop with decent specs nowadays? I want 2TB storage, a 4k (or close) HiDPI display, good build quality, and not a bulky gaming laptop. The XPS 15 was perfect, it had those specs, except it only had 1TB storage which is now full. I was expecting that to not be an issue 4 years later ... But now Dell discontinued X…

The asus zenbook pro is great. The 16inch version is not really bulky. It is 2.4kg, 2TB, 3.2k resolution, great design and build quality. $2200

The 14.5 inch version is 1.6kg, 2TB, 2.9k resolution, also great design and build quality. $1700

https://www.asus.com/laptops/for-creators/zenbook/zenbook-pr...

https://www.asus.com/laptops/for-creators/zenbook/zenbook-pr...

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by mrheosuper »

godelski wrote: post #468
mcgrath_sh wrote: post #42

I have considered going back to Mac after about 5-7 years on Windows/WSL, but the storage premium is just too much to swallow. If the $999 was a base 16GB RAM and 512GB storage, I'd consider it. I just added another 32GB of RAM to my 2020 built desktop for $50. You can get a 1TB crucial M.2 drive for $70. I know I'm comparing apples and oranges, but the storage cost is too much, and 256GB is much too little. Edit: to…

> storage premium I wanted to make a nice comparison chart: (prices are very rough but from NewEgg) DDR5 RAM (Single Stick) Memory Apple Desktop Laptop Server 16 - ~$40 ~$40 ~$60 24 +$200 ~$200 ~$50 ~$100 32 +$400 ~$80 ~$80 ~$100-$200 2 Sticks 64 - ~$200 ~$170 ~$150 128 - ~$115 ~$310 ~$250 Storage Apple NVME (Gen 5) NVME (Gen 4) SSD HDD 256GB - - ~$50 ~$20 ~$20 512GB +$200 - ~$60 ~$30 ~$40 1T +$400 ~$150 ~$80 ~$60 ~$…

why the heck a 24gb stick on desktop cost $200

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by woodson »

duchenne wrote: post #592
ruuda wrote: post #247

My 4-year old Dell XPS 15 is up for replacement, but somehow no manufacturer aside from Apple is making laptop with decent specs nowadays? I want 2TB storage, a 4k (or close) HiDPI display, good build quality, and not a bulky gaming laptop. The XPS 15 was perfect, it had those specs, except it only had 1TB storage which is now full. I was expecting that to not be an issue 4 years later ... But now Dell discontinued X…

The asus zenbook pro is great. The 16inch version is not really bulky. It is 2.4kg, 2TB, 3.2k resolution, great design and build quality. $2200 The 14.5 inch version is 1.6kg, 2TB, 2.9k resolution, also great design and build quality. $1700 https://www.asus.com/laptops/for-creators/zenbook/zenbook-pr... https://www.asus.com/laptops/for-creators/zenbook/zenbook-pr...

From what I’ve seen, they overheat a lot just from having a browser and VSCode running.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by mrheosuper »

Kerrick wrote: post #381
vvillena wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can make the notch go away with third-party apps. On the Pro laptops the screen has miniLED backlighting, so the dark area stays purely black. Removing the notch this way leaves you with a 16:10 screen, so you still have more screen real state than in most other laptops.

Yep, it's not a notch cut into your available space. It's "wings" of extra pixels taking up what would otherwise be unused space.

no, it cuts into your available space, because every other premium laptop makes use of that space

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by icedchai »

nostrademons wrote: post #571
ninetyninenine wrote: post #482

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But what other advantage did this give them? Like name specific examples. Feel free to leave, but I honestly don't see where you're coming from.

They've been able to reap some real technological efficiencies because of their vertical integration. Notable ones I know about: - The integrated on-chip RAM dramatically speeds up memory access. Your full 16 GB of RAM on an M1 functions at cache speeds; meanwhile, the L3 cache on an Intel processor is 1-8M, more than 3 orders of magnitude smaller. - Apple takes full advantage of this with their software stack. Objec…

Apple M1 (or any M-series) RAM absolutely does NOT function at cache speeds. Do you know how expensive that memory would be? The RAM is not literally "in the CPU", but colocated in the same SoC "system on chip" package as the CPU.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by jac_no_k »

I really was hoping for nano-texture on MacBook Air. The cynic in me thinks this is intentional as I'm now purchasing the 14" MBP with nano-texture. It's 42,000 JPY ($282 USD) more then a near equivalent MacBook Air. But the matte display is the killer feature for me.

And this is to finally replace my trusty 2025 MBPr. It's had an extremely good run. May this one also be a ten year laptop.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by icedchai »

chasd00 wrote: post #57
kotaKat wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone that migrated to the M1 Macbook Air from a Mid-2014 Macbook Pro... the Intel customers are still the ones they're trying to target, amusingly. If they'd just give me onboard mobile connectivity, I'd upgrade to the next Air sooner, otherwise this thing will run until it dies... and maybe some day they'll start comparing performance against their original M1.

> the Intel customers are still the ones they're trying to target, amusingly yeah i just checked mine, it says MacBook Pro 16" 2019 and the cpu is an intel i7. i don't know what to say, it still meets all my requirements, i don't feel any need to upgrade.

If it works for you... but I had an Intel MacBook Pro (2019, 16", i9) for a work machine and the fans would sound like a jet engine. Installing NPM dependencies was particularly bad, since all the writes would make the corporate file scanning spyware go crazy. It ran like crap.

I have an M1 Pro (which is considered old now) and it's like night and day.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by kerkeslager »

ruuda wrote: post #247

My 4-year old Dell XPS 15 is up for replacement, but somehow no manufacturer aside from Apple is making laptop with decent specs nowadays? I want 2TB storage, a 4k (or close) HiDPI display, good build quality, and not a bulky gaming laptop. The XPS 15 was perfect, it had those specs, except it only had 1TB storage which is now full. I was expecting that to not be an issue 4 years later ... But now Dell discontinued X…

> I'm willing to compromise on battery life, and I don't need the fastest CPU, just a good quality work laptop where I can run `cargo build` / `docker pull` without worrying about filling up the disk, and mostly just a browser aside from that.

I know this isn't your point but this is exactly why I don't use docker--but I'm a bit surprised to hear you mention `cargo build` as something that might fill up the disk. I've been a vocal critic of Rust on Hacker News in the past, but the one thing I always thought they did very, very well, was Cargo and the tight executables it produced for me.

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