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The top 10% owns 87% of the stocks

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Re: The top 10% owns 87% of the stocks

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That would massively slow the economy and the people at the top will never do that.

True , but inflating an endless assets and debt bubble in the hopes A.I will come to save us is also probably not sustainable.

Well no, it's not sustainable. They just need to offload it to the next bigger fool.

Re: The top 10% owns 87% of the stocks

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This countries lack of affordable housing is due to NIMBYs pulling the ladder up after themselves. We could build enough housing for all the short term rentals and second homes people want if it was legal. Rich people owning houses isnt a problem unless theyre leaving them vacant en masse which by and large is not happening.

It's the other way around. If you think about it it's a little ridiculous to think that the entire world had a NIMBY crisis all at the same time. Vacant en masse is happening a fair bit there are even some near where i live. Mostly it's more people renting though. The war on affordable housing is all around.

Its not the entire world, mostly the US. Japan for example doesnt have a NIMBY problem and that has allowed tokyo to become incredibly dense without becoming expensive.

Where do you live? Even manhattan has vacancy rates barely above the 3% structural minimum and thats the poster child for "rich people leaving property vacant" complaints.

The problem really is that too many homeowners refuse to allow anything other than SFHs to be built near them.

Re: The top 10% owns 87% of the stocks

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Laborer coordination and workforce strikes.

How very Marxist. How have those Marxist governments fared in the past?

False equivalence. The strawman that sticks out gets hammered. Peter Turchin has mapped this out. The elite wealth pump is what's ending the US empire and prosperity. This is why Trump is in power. Talk and negotiations dont work anymore, do you think people will lay down and give up?

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The memecoin stuff is just chefs kiss. Now he wants to impose tarrifs while not having the local production capacity. The citizens will pay for that. The rich will get the tax cuts and funding while everyone else will get austerity and be required to pull up your bootstraps.

Then, you can always blame the libtards and the Bidens harder .

At this point, the results clearly show it doesn't matter whether it's a Republican or Democrat regime. They both cannibalized the middle class and all this drama between them are effectively for show. Both parties and their donors benefit very well regardless of their party, particularly the defense, finance, pharma, and tech industries.

Re: The top 10% owns 87% of the stocks

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What part of "people with access to credit at low rates have an unfair market position" is so hard to understand? The Cantillon effect isn't about an actual money printer; it's about who gets to spend newly issued broad money (ie, bank-issued credit) first. Those who have more assets can extend more leverage, generally at lower rates, than anyone else, meaning that not only do they have more dollars, but that the dollars they spend are actually worth more than the ones the average person gets, because they're spent before they've had the chance to have any inflationary impact upon price.

As long as you have anything less than full reserve banking (and even there, the interest could be an issue if left unchecked -- perhaps why Islam and Christianity both ban its practice), this corruption of sound money will skew the playing field.

Re: The top 10% owns 87% of the stocks

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I think about this from time to time and I suppose everything is cyclical in the end. Most of us would have been some peasant in the feudal age and when it gets really bad it always ends in a revolution of some sort. It's just on a global scale and timeframe now. As more of the population feels the effects of inequality they won't appeased by just fancy toys and shiny things, they will want change by force. My only s…

The population might not be happy, but they don't have the means to change it. Revolutions don't happen when people are mad, they happen when the ones who can afford armies and equipment sense the possibility of coming out on top. 250 years ago George Washington could have financed the entire Revolutionary War out of his own pocket and he still would have retained two thirds of his wealth. Instead he put the losses o…

Cryptography, as the state department used to understand, is a munition (but of course, thank God for the First and Second Amendment). Cryptography based peer to peer currency that can replace a debt based system of inflation that provides an unfair advantage to the first spender of the new money is a particularly powerful munition in addressing this issue.

At least Bukele seems to get this. As does the IMF, as evidenced by their panicked attempt to shut him down.

No rush in any case though; the people who understand Bitcoin the best are those that need to, and rapid adoption is just a stressor on those building out the rails.

Re: The top 10% owns 87% of the stocks

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George Washington didn't have Lockheed Martin's hand in his pocket. Wars were much cheaper when all you needed were men, horses and small arms.

Not relatively. They were incredibly expensive compared to the resources at the time, not least because of the difficulty of moving supplies around and the huge amount of opportunity cost in the lost work of the men recruited into the military.

They were also financed with a finite resource, or at least, one that grew at a much slower rate, governed by the laws of physics as they impacted the economic feasibility of gold mining. Rather than an indefinitely large supply of "money future generations will pay back."

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Britain and America are not exactly close...

And that's the primary reason that Britain lost the war. The war was much more expensive for the British than for the Colonists, and became even more expensive once France joined. The British didn't lose because they couldn't keep fighting, but because the cost of the war grew to be higher than the expected value of winning. It was also expensive for the French, and that cost helped bankrupt the state, which led to t…

The British also realized that as long as the Americans would borrow from the Bank of England, and were willing to trade their raw goods to England where they could be processed into industrial goods and then sold back to them, there wasn't much of a need to win the war in the first place -- though they didn't realize this all at once (as evidenced by the War of 1812). It was when the Americans (in the North) got to disrupting this economic situation that things really kicked off that they needed to back the Confederacy in what was effectively America's third revolution. Despite losing that one too, America's economy and politics were impacted enough that it was just a few decades later the British agent and American turncoat Woodrow Wilson was able to bring the former colonies back to heel with the Federal Reserve Act, the 16th Amendment, and entry into WWI as Britain's ally.

It was a nice sovereign republic while it lasted, or so I've read.

Re: The top 10% owns 87% of the stocks

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only in a corrupt system.

In every system. The whole point of money is you can use it to get what you want. The whole point of having power is that you can use it to get what you want. They are the same thing if not completely interchangeable. You can use money to buy power and you can use power to accumulate money.

You can use money to buy things people are willing to sell.

You can use power to get people to do they would not otherwise do.

Generally, if money is able to get people to do things they wouldn't otherwise do, there needs to be some sort of duress, or corruption. People who are content with what they have don't resort to prostitution or otherwise compromising their principles for money. Those who are held under crippling debt, or who come to have no principles, are much more inclined to do so.

Power is more subtle, and it is related to money, but no, they're not the same thing.

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How very Marxist. How have those Marxist governments fared in the past?

How's China's Marxist-Leninist society working out right now? Last I checked their economy was on pace to grow larger than the US.

With only 4x the population too! And even that's looking dubious, despite the American economy being all but in a state of cardiac arrest.
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