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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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It's a 12mp crop of a 48mp sensor, so it's not digital zoom but it is a crop. It's just that that crop is still of good resolution.

> It's a 12mp crop of a 48mp sensor, so it's not digital zoom but it is a crop. I'm curious what you think digital zoom is if not cropping.

Typically cropping and then upscaling.

While I don't think it's right to call these crops "optical zoom", the quality is typically pretty good.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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It's a 12mp crop of a 48mp sensor, so it's not digital zoom but it is a crop. It's just that that crop is still of good resolution.

> It's a 12mp crop of a 48mp sensor, so it's not digital zoom but it is a crop. I'm curious what you think digital zoom is if not cropping.

To be fair to the above poster, normally "digital zoom" implies that your standard (un-zoomed) image is at the native sensor resolution, and the zoomed image has reduced resolution because of the crop.

Presumably the standard image on the 16e converts the 48 MP sensor into a 12 MP image with less noise because they bin 4 sensor pixels into 1 pixel in the image file. So a 12 MP crop on the 48 MP sensor would result in a zoomed image with the same 12 MP resolution as the standard image. A major drawback would be higher image noise, but nobody will see a reduction in image pixels. At the end of the day it's probably somewhere between true optical zoom and a 12 MP native sensor with a crop.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Check out the battery life! > iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone, lasting up to six hours longer than iPhone 11 and up to 12 hours longer than all generations of iPhone SE. Their page comparing models claims the new 16e gets "26 hours video playback." iPhone 16e: 26 hours iPhone 16: 22 hours iPhone 15: 20 hours iPhone 14: 20 hours iPhone 13: 19 hours iPhone 12: 17 hours iPhone 11: 17 hours…

So the video test is done with the video streaming over cellular data? Otherwise what would a video playback time spec have to do with the efficiency of the cellular radio?

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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Hopefully one they do a Pro Mini, fingers crossed.

What that even be? You can’t fit what’s in the pro line in a smaller phone. The smaller phones already had smaller batteries, would you be willing to give up more to squeeze in another lens? Something or some things have to give when you have less space to work with.

Apple made the best small phones anyone had ever made and people didn’t like them. Bigger phones allow for a lot more than just bigger screens. People seem to take all the non screen stuff for granted.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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If the margin is lower then you make less money not more.

If the additional revenue is positive, and the margin on that additional revenue is positive, you've made more money.

Exactly. But Apple has so many low hanging fruits that anything that doesn't make billions is irrelevant to them.

Apple is making way too much money for the good of their customers. If only people would stop mindlessly buying, they would eventually listen but their userbase has become so huge that they are not going to change anytime soon.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Check out the battery life! > iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone, lasting up to six hours longer than iPhone 11 and up to 12 hours longer than all generations of iPhone SE. Their page comparing models claims the new 16e gets "26 hours video playback." iPhone 16e: 26 hours iPhone 16: 22 hours iPhone 15: 20 hours iPhone 14: 20 hours iPhone 13: 19 hours iPhone 12: 17 hours iPhone 11: 17 hours…

In the video, they did say that the C1 is the "most power-efficient modem ever in an iPhone." They also said that they have an "all new internal design for iPhone 16e that has been optimized for a larger battery." Part of it is certainly the modem, but part of it is also likely to be the larger battery. I'm really curious to see both how the Apple C1 performs and also how they changed up the internals for a larger ba…

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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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It sold poorly, sadly.

Of course, since they gimped it. What about creating a smaller version laden with features...

You can’t fit what’s in a pro into a mini sized phone. You have to give something up. The battery was already smaller than the regular sized phones. So what would you be willing to give up from the regular line to get a mini that wasn’t Gimped?”

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Counterpoint: removing Hypervisor API from iOS 16, ostensibly to prevent iPads from cannibalizing MacBooks.

That was because they found a security bug in that code and decided to ifdef it out if it wasn’t being used.

UTM and others use that code to this day. They could fix the bug and re-enable.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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iPhone SE: $429, 4.7-inch display, 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29, 5.09 ounces iPhone 16e: $599, 6.1-inch display, 5.78 x 2.82 x 0.31, 5.88 ounces This is a major downgrade in every way for people who want the smallest possible iPhone.

Not to mention the damn TouchID. So much better of an experience on my old SE than on my 15 pro with FaceID.

I hear this and I do not relate at all. Face ID is so much more reliable than Touch ID ever was for me.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#600

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May end up doing that. We'll see. I also write software for these beasties, and it may well be that I won't be able to justify avoiding getting one that has Apple Intelligence.

Eventually, Apple (and 3p developers) will abandon you, and you'll need to throw away a perfectly good phone and take another step on the treadmill. I'm still hanging on to my perfectly working iPhone 7, while app developers tell me to fuck off left and right. It does everything I want a phone to do, but developers consider "old phones" to be icky and stop supporting them.

Eventually yes, but the 13 is less than 3.5 years old and will likely receive iOS updates for another 3.5 years. And most apps support one or two iOS versions into the past. I agree it’s not ideal, but ~8 years of use isn’t that bad either.
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