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Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by bionade24 »

spacechild1 wrote: post #588

Today I learned that TikTok has been used by over half the US population! In Europe, usage numbers are significantly lower and it's still generally regarded as something for young people. In fact, I only know very few adults (in my country) who actively use TikTok. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/tiktok-us...

Any US resident that could write something about their insights how Tiktok became so popular with residents over 30? What are the typical usage reasons for more mature people that differ from the incentives for young people?

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by davb »

daemoens wrote: post #231

The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/st…

I’ve seen other versions of this like https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/1i4nm32/rip... - none of which mention Trump. I do wonder if this version (mentioning Trump) is real - the domain from the link is Foxnews…

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by ipython »

AirMax98 wrote: post #98

It's a shame that it's come to this. I feel that all arguments that TikTok is unhealthy or spyware and bad for our general public are valid, but the same arguments also apply to Instagram/Twitter/Whatever. Rather than have some sort of further regulation for what data any application can collect and present to Americans, we've just brought the hammer down on the millions of people that use this application for their…

“Millions of people that use this application for their livelihood” - citation needed

A bit over dramatic. I don’t foresee soup kitchens overflowing from TikTok influencers suddenly unable to house or feed themselves.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by genocidicbunny »

joeegan2202 wrote: post #27

Consider the proximity of Zuckerberg to the new admin, and the current admin, and remember that this is only market consolidation (data consolidation) around Reels and Shorts.

This is a pretty silly take considering the ban has been in the works for over half a decade now, with various parts of the US government and military banning TT for years now.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by r33b33 »

AirMax98 wrote: post #98

It's a shame that it's come to this. I feel that all arguments that TikTok is unhealthy or spyware and bad for our general public are valid, but the same arguments also apply to Instagram/Twitter/Whatever. Rather than have some sort of further regulation for what data any application can collect and present to Americans, we've just brought the hammer down on the millions of people that use this application for their…

Better to have US spying on you than China.

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Post by davidjfelix »

plantwallshoe wrote: post #194
AirMax98 wrote: post #98

It's a shame that it's come to this. I feel that all arguments that TikTok is unhealthy or spyware and bad for our general public are valid, but the same arguments also apply to Instagram/Twitter/Whatever. Rather than have some sort of further regulation for what data any application can collect and present to Americans, we've just brought the hammer down on the millions of people that use this application for their…

Of all the bleak things in our world right now this one doesn’t even crack the top 500

I’m glad you’ve limited your number of concerns to allow yourself to focus on what matters. Just curious where did replying on hacker news rank?

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Post by scarab92 »

daemoens wrote: post #231

The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/st…

> If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing

Most likely, the rationale will be similar to Huawei and Kaspersky.

Not based on actual historical misbehaviour, but rather the amount of power you’re allowing their respective governments to have over US citizens / infrastructure.

There are very few “from first principals” thinkers in the world, especially amongst TikTok’s younger audience. Most people take their beliefs from others, in the same way a llm’s output reflects its training data. If China controls the recommendation system that decides what content people consume, then they can influence the narrative of the country.

China has long banned US social media for likely the same reason.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by wildrhythms »

andrewinardeer wrote: post #203
enlightenedfool wrote: post #145

Did they ever show the proof of spying to the American public?

Would it be within the realm of possibility that US intelligence agencies have this proof and have not released it publicly? Here in Victoria, Australia the state government has deplatformed itself from TT and banned the app from government phones due to security concerns. Clearly, the state government has taken instruction from the federal government who has received advice from somewhere (5 eyes / intelligence agen…

>Would it be within the realm of possibility that US intelligence agencies have this proof and have not released it publicly?

I wonder where we've heard this before?

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