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Re: Who killed the rave?

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Post by ioseph »

jaarse wrote: post #573

I don't believe this is specific to Raves, but Bars & Nightclubs in general. Younger people don't seem to be going to these places nearly as much as generations past. I think a lot of this drop off can be attributed to Social Media & Tinder. You don't need to go out to see your friends or find a date. So why bother? It's easier and cheaper to stay home.

Cheaper being a big one. Here in Australia student allowance/minimum wage has hardly increased while everything else has gotten far more expensive, young people simply can't afford to drink out/attend events.

There was also a intensive effort to kill nightclubs with lockout laws

Re: Who killed the rave?

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Post by MisterTea »

stickfigure wrote: post #343
MisterTea wrote: post #206

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> Tier 1 city RE prices have made live entertainment venues harder to run profitably. Abandoned warehouses and other commercial building you could host a rave were once plenty in NYC. No more. Hell when I was a kid there were three abandoned factory buildings in my neighborhood we'd break into and become our "club house" in grade school. You just had to watch for squatters and neighbors calling the cops. Now you're l…

The craziest thing happened this NYE. I live in the country, more or less Bay Area, at the end of a long (2-3mi) dead end road. My neighbor's house is empty and posted for sale. Someone broke in and threw a rave there. The party was advertised online and they were selling tickets: https://monosnap.com/direct/YxtOr5VARRXTAIr2Ej9ae5KCjAjRfn The owners (who live across the street) confronted them immediately. Bouncers d…

Sounds like a house party. Though I guess it could be a rave as well, just a small one. Better than squatters I guess.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

leptons wrote: post #563
kstrauser wrote: post #341

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Honestly, you won't find me on the dance floor. I'll be meandering around listening to the music I love at seismic sound levels, looking at the art exhibits people set up, and chilling with my friends. I just want to soak up the vibes and love everyone and the world for a few days, not dance myself to exhaustion.

Are you me? lol. I'm in SoCal though, and we still do our own family-style desert parties and we sometimes go to bigger desert parties (Moontribe still going strong), and sometimes go to the mountains in the central valley too. Slinky (which was near Fresno) was so much fun until it ended recently after 21 years :( My friend group doesn't have anything in the mountains quite like Slinky to replace it, but it sounds l…

California is a last bastion of sorts socially, because los Angeles is an extrovert magnet.

Ironically to the north, an opposite social civilization has attracted all the introverted people.

Entertainment must extrovert to gain eyeballs, but it uses the technology of the introverts to do so.

But underlying this ironic alliance is a force that cares not for the social polarity, it simply will nihilistically predate on both spheres to produce the maximal profit while eating away at the fabric of a functioning society.

The matrix really is the endgame goal: pods plugged into a VR machine. The matrix struggled with plausible explanations for why the machines kept humans in that state, and the endgame of capitalism likewise has no solution how the world would function at the end of its road.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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Post by dnquark »

01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #354
mjsir911 wrote: post #166

NPR did a recent expose about a local renegade spot & the shows it supports in my scene: https://www.kuow.org/stories/under-the-bridge-a-portrait-of-... With mixed results, it kind of burned the spot by virtue of being talked about in too wide an audience but I think it's also important to make it known to the mainstream that this kind of stuff is happening. All that's needed to make a rave happen is music & speakers…

> Humans will always find spaces to congregate ... I hope we're not losing our drive to be around each other and dance, it's been such a integral part of my life story (as a fairly young person!) and has let me find my people. I'm gonna dump a little bit with the blind hope that someone can explain what I'm feeling. Not meaning to disrespect you mjsir, but this thread just has the right context: I'm in my 30s and I h…

Yes, but I'll just speak to the part about dancing: it is true that (a) many people find it fun and rewarding and (b) many people don't find it easy and/or natural a priori. However, given the right style, music, AND a few (or possibly many) months of deliberate practice to make it "click" in your brain, many people could move from category (b) to (a). Searching through this parameter space requires time and effort. This is a thread about EDM, and I spent some time trying to like EDM because it was cool, until I realized that it's not for me, and I have zero inclination to dance to it unless I'm on MDMA. On the other hand, swing, salsa, bachata ended up being absolutely my jam -- after months of deliberate practice, as none of these musical styles were super familiar to me at the outset.

For a lot folks, partnered dance forms are nothing short of life changing, and they tend to appeal to analytical introverts; if you haven't tried already, go sign up for your local lindy hop lessons, and keep your expectations low. There's no downside, at the very least you'll get some exercise.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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Post by aylmao »

jaarse wrote: post #573

I don't believe this is specific to Raves, but Bars & Nightclubs in general. Younger people don't seem to be going to these places nearly as much as generations past. I think a lot of this drop off can be attributed to Social Media & Tinder. You don't need to go out to see your friends or find a date. So why bother? It's easier and cheaper to stay home.

Also worth noting, and the article briefly alludes to this; college costs are higher, the difference between jobs that pay well and those that don't is wider, and everyone is very aware of all this. My guess is young people today are possibly less laissez-faire than in the past. People are worrying about their future earlier.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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Post by ty6853 »

listenallyall wrote: post #533
Earw0rm wrote: post #511

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I said by today's standards.. women going home with some random guy without anyone even having a phone number for them. No mobiles, no net, no nothing. And in most cases that worked out fine, but today people would think it insane to even suggest that.

The enormous amount of fear that has been injected into society, seemingly permanently, disguised as "safety" (i.e. framing a negative as a positive) is one of, or perhaps THE, the most detrimental factors to the health of that society, and is actively harming the development of people growing up within it.

Life is much safer now so mundane relative risks look much worse. When illness or famine lurks a every corner, no one is questioning a kid venturing 3 miles on his bike to buy mom a pack of smokes and buy himself some Cracker Jacks. Now you're considered Satan if you allow that and some prosecutor will ramble about predators and kidnapping at your trial.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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Post by [deleted] »

znpy wrote: post #525
ethbr1 wrote: post #457

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Imho, the internet / mobile apps have drastically atrophied younger generations' face-to-face social interaction skills. And specifically their appetite for the risk/discomfort that goes along with living in realtime physical moments with other people. Human beings are awkward as hell, but that's what laughter and tolerance are the bridges for.

> And specifically their appetite for the risk/discomfort that goes along with living in realtime physical moments with other people. The risk/discomfort lasted just that night. Nowadays everyone is posting everything everywhere. No wonder youngsters don’t want to risk it. This is a form of social cooling in my opinion.

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Re: Who killed the rave?

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Post by TheRealPomax »

guynamedloren wrote: post #586
kstrauser wrote: post #120

One big change is that they got better and much more organized. I go to an annual event with a few hundred of my friends and family. We rent a lodge in a national forest, set up an enormous sound system, and dance for 3 days around some very confused deer. There are food trucks and coffee bars and dozens of portapotties scattered around, plus daytime poolside sets while we swim around and listen to 100dB house. We gr…

I’m confused. You say that you “go to” an annual event, but then you describe it at a massive private festival that you’re self organizing. Which is it?

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
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