In 2012 Youtube did the Red Bull stratos live stream with 8m concurrent users. We're 12 years later, Netflix fucked up.
Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson
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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson
#592Earlier quoted context omitted.
You’re in a fucking thread about people commenting in a forum about an outage that may or may not have been caused by Netflix
Which has many interesting facets worthy of discussion! No need to be extremely aggressive in your tone.
You are the one telling people their comments provide no value. That’s far more aggressive than using a word not even directed at you
Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson
#593I’m not sure buffering was the biggest issue with this event. How was as 58 year old Tyson fighting a man in his 20s?
This wasn’t a “real” fight in the ring. It was clearly a hype/money fight only. The late 20 year old boxer has a massive following (or hate following) with younger age groups; and Mike Tyson brings the older age groups out. Mike has earned somewhat of a legendary status.
Leading up to the fight, there were many staged interactions meant to rile up the audience and generate hype and drive subscription revenue, and subsequently make ad spots a premium ($$$).
Unfortunately, American television/entertainment is so fake. I can’t get even be bothered to engage or invest time into it anymore.
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#594Why no one mentioned the term “vaporware”?
Isn’t this a classic example of one?
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#595Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is great, but what possible counterargument is there? We should prolong indefinitely a spooky ambiguity about whether the system works or not?
In some environments, deploying to production has a massive bureaucracy tax. Paperwork, approvals, limited windows in time, can’t do them during normal business hours, etc.
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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson
#596I watched on an AppleTV and the stream was rock solid. I don’t know if it’s still the case, but in the past some devices worked better than others during peak times because they used different bandwidth providers. This was the battle between Comcast and Cogent and Netflix.
Your device type has no influence on your provider and its bandwidth characteristics. If you're on Comcast, Apple can't magically make it not suck.
It isn't Apple, it's Netflix.
Remember back in 2014 or so when Netflix users on Comcast were getting slow connections and buffering pauses? It didn't affect people who watched Netflix via Apple TV because Netflix served Apple TV users with a different network.
> In a little known, but public fact, anyone who is on Comcast and using Apple TV to stream Netflix wasn’t having quality problems. The reason for this is that Netflix is using Level 3 and Limelight to stream their content specifically to the Apple TV device. What this shows is that Netflix is the one that decides and controls how they get their content to each device and whether they do it via their own servers or a third party. Netflix decides which third party CDNs to use and when Netflix uses their own CDN, they decide whom to buy transit from, with what capacity, in what locations and how many connections they buy, from the transit provider. Netflix is the one in control of this, not Comcast or any ISP.
https://www.streamingmediablog.com/2014/02/heres-comcast-net...
Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson
#597Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not a manager and I don't stack rank people, but I am 100% capable of knowing when one of my co-workers or predecessors is a fucking moron. The trick is to use my massive brain to root cause several significant outages, discover that most of them originate in code written by the same employee, and notice that said employee liked to write things like // @ts-nocheck // obligatory disabling of typescript: static typ…
I dunno, I've gone and done a "git blame" to find out who the fucking moron that wrote the code was, only to find out it was me three years ago. Sure, there's such a thing as stupid code, but without knowing the whole context under which a bit of code was produced, unless it's utterly moronic, (which is entirely possible, dailywtf has some shiners), it's hard to really judge it. Hindsight, as applied to code, is 2020…
I agree with the general sentiment ("one instance of bad code might have been me") but not the specific sentiment ("I could easily decide to catch and ignore errors through every bit of code I worked on without knowing why that was bad, and commit other, similar crimes against good taste in the same way").
The difference for me is that this is pervasive. Yes, sometimes I might write code with a bug in error handling at 3am when I'm trying to bring a service back up, but I don't do it consistently across all the code that I touch.
I accept that the scope is hard to understand without having worked on a codebase which a genuine fucking moron has also touched. "Oh strken," you might say, "surely it can't be that bad." Yes, it can. I have never seen anything like this before. It's like the difference between a house that hasn't been cleaned in a week and a hoarder's house. If I tried to explain what hoarding is, well, maybe you'd reply that sometimes you don't do the dishes every day or mop the floor every week, and then I'd have to explain that the kitchen I'm talking about is filled from floor to roof with dirty dishes and discarded wrappers, including meat trays, and smells like a dead possum.
Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson
#598People just do not appreciate how many gotchas can pop up doing anything live. Sure, Netflix might have a great CDN that works great for their canned content and I could see how they might have assumed that's the hardest part. Live has changed over the years from large satellite dishes beaming to a geosat and back down to the broadcast center($$$$$), to microwave to a more local broadcast center($$$$), to running ded…
You are making excuses for a multibillion dollar company that has been in this game for many years. Maybe the first to market in streaming. This isn’t NFLX’s first rodeo in live streaming. Have seen a handful of events pop up in their apps. There is no excuse. All of the resources and talent at their disposal, and they looked absolutely amateurish. Poor optics. I would be amazed if they are able to secure another exc…
A company that readily admits it burns out SWRs and SREs in exchange for the big bucks.
Just what the fuck are these people doing?
If I were a major investor in them I'd be pissed.
Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson
#599Reminds me of Nucleus stuttering during UFC
I could hear Gavin Belson screaming during the broadcast when my stream was freezing as they were each making their entrance. Mike Judge is a prophet.
Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson
#600Earlier quoted context omitted.
> ut my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. I always assumed youtube was top dog for performance and stability. I can’t remember the last time I had issues with them and don’t they handle basically more traffic than any other video service?
Maybe a client issue, but i've got a low-end smart tv which handles netflix fine, but youtube is unwatchable due to buffering and failed cuts to adverts
Maybe that’s it. I pay from premium though so don’t have the advert issue (apples to apples).