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Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by gadders »

dilyevsky wrote: post #582
gadders wrote: post #561

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OMG - there would be a bidding war for developers! VCs and Shareholders might have to take less profit so they could pay their developers more!! What a dystopian future. And as far as I can tell, Pittsburgh is in the same country as SF.

According to gadders the definition of ethical is apparently “what’s good for gadders personally”. I don’t see anything ethical about your take - i see nationalism and greed. Misguided at that btw because skilled immigration demonstrably is good for us and good for wage growth. I asked you to prove otherwise and you just gave me some econ 101 vibes crap

>>According to gadders the definition of ethical is apparently “what’s good for gadders personally”.

According to gadders the definition of ethical is apparently “what’s good for the host nation's developers”. Fixed that for you.

I don't think workers wanting to maximise their pay is greed.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by 93po »

dennis_jeeves2 wrote: post #576
93po wrote: post #499

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I had an interview last month from a post there. Dude sounded like he was half asleep and hated talking to me even from the very beginning. He carried it on for almost an hour for reasons I don't understand if he was so disinterested. No rejection email follow up, posted again in November. The rule just says "you have to respond" and he did by interviewing me, it doesn't explicitly say you have to provide direct yes…

>He carried it on for almost an hour for reasons I don't understand if he was so disinterested. He is just going the the motions that he's been prescribed. Either that or an idiot.

it's more, why did anyone tell him he has to interview people that are clearly not a fit? is this just some sort of thing to hire an H1-B person instead? and if so why carry it on for an hour?

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Post by dennis_jeeves2 »

93po wrote: post #592
dennis_jeeves2 wrote: post #576

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>He carried it on for almost an hour for reasons I don't understand if he was so disinterested. He is just going the the motions that he's been prescribed. Either that or an idiot.

it's more, why did anyone tell him he has to interview people that are clearly not a fit? is this just some sort of thing to hire an H1-B person instead? and if so why carry it on for an hour?

Most likely an H1B, or nepotism. he's been probably been tasked with doing the dirty work of a superior. If he goes on for an hour, because he is most likely tracked for the hrs he puts in.

If you feel repeatedly in a situation like this, you should end the interview prematurely to save your time. I have had to do this a few times in the past.

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Post by para_parolu »

gigel82 wrote: post #278
para_parolu wrote: post #183

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This means small companies may not get good talent that value things besides salary (wfh, perks, fun project) and will have to compete with corporations for people who only cares about money. This may (or may not) impact startups

Stop it, no one "values things besides salary", and you know it.

Not sure if it meant to be joke but I do value things besides salary. I literally accepted offer with 40% drop recently. Salary is important and it doesn’t make sense to work for free. But after some threshold increase is salary doesn’t change life drastically. But not spending 40 hours doing boring stuff changes life a lot.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by 93po »

dennis_jeeves2 wrote: post #593
93po wrote: post #592

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's more, why did anyone tell him he has to interview people that are clearly not a fit? is this just some sort of thing to hire an H1-B person instead? and if so why carry it on for an hour?

Most likely an H1B, or nepotism. he's been probably been tasked with doing the dirty work of a superior. If he goes on for an hour, because he is most likely tracked for the hrs he puts in. If you feel repeatedly in a situation like this, you should end the interview prematurely to save your time. I have had to do this a few times in the past.

unfortunately im a little desperate for a job and getting an interview right now is super rare and difficult despite 15 years experience in software

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by throwawayq3423 »

nickfromseattle wrote: post #51
duxup wrote: post #9

>The trend could be due to the low marginal cost of posting additional job ads and to maintain a pipeline of talents. After adjusting for yearly trends, I find that ghost jobs can explain the recent disconnect in the Beveridge Curve in the past fifteen years. The results show that policy-makers should be aware of such a practice as it causes significant job fatigue and distorts market signals. Very interesting. I cer…

> because IMO, it made THEM look busy / effective. A KPI in hiring is offers made / accepted. I don't think the HR team gets credit for reviewing applicants and running interviews that don't result in one/both of these.

> I don't think the HR team gets credit for reviewing applicants and running interviews that don't result in one/both of these.

Considering that 95% of hiring is interacting with people you won't actual hire, this cannot be true.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by 93po »

93po wrote: post #595
dennis_jeeves2 wrote: post #593

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most likely an H1B, or nepotism. he's been probably been tasked with doing the dirty work of a superior. If he goes on for an hour, because he is most likely tracked for the hrs he puts in. If you feel repeatedly in a situation like this, you should end the interview prematurely to save your time. I have had to do this a few times in the past.

unfortunately im a little desperate for a job and getting an interview right now is super rare and difficult despite 15 years experience in software

update: got a job offer :)

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by throwawayq3423 »

ghaff wrote: post #465
Muromec wrote: post #405

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>an internal champion. It's an interesting way to spell "corruption".

And "corruption" is an interesting way of saying that you don't think personal connections should pay into business decisions but I realize many folks in tech roles think that way.

Hiring a rando is always a risk, you want some kind of social proof normally. And if you've spent an entire career without developing that kind of proof, well that's a red flag.
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