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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by PierceJoy »

talldayo wrote: post #262
PierceJoy wrote: post #180

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The author specifically says he believes people will be using the 4th or 5th iteration of the Vision Pro for this purpose. Why are you comparing prices of devices that won't exist for another 5+ years?

Because you and I both know Apple will never be price-competitive with the commodity segment. They are a luxury brand that relies on luxury margins, so I want to know why their business model will succeed. If plane seating is anything to go by, most people don't want a luxury experience but a practical and cheap one instead. Most seats aren't reserved for premium passengers because they are a minority, maybe a profit…

> Because you and I both know Apple will never be price-competitive with the commodity segment.

OG iPhone: $799

iPhone 3G: $199

> They are a luxury brand that relies on luxury margins, so I want to know why their business model will succeed.

Apple has shown many times over they don't need to be price competitive with the commodity segment. If you want to know why their business model will succeed, why not just look at their current business model which has been massively successful? Arguably the most successful business model in the history of consumer hardware.

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Post by unlikelytomato »

solardev wrote: post #568
futureshock wrote: post #407

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For my 12 hour transatlantics, nothing beats a Steamdeck for me. Sure it’s less immersive than a VR or xreal but it doesn’t really matter once you get into the game. I can easily play for 8 hours and barely notice the flight.

How do you hold it comfortably? It's so heavy my weak pathetic arms got tired after half an hour or so. Ended up selling my Deck and using a much lighter handheld instead.

I have struggled with the same experience. It's just too heavy for me.

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Post by brailsafe »

brailsafe wrote: post #590
dagmx wrote: post #501

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Out of curiosity, have you tried the Vision Pro ? I legitimately ask because it sounds like you think it isolates you somehow from the rest of the world around you. But you can still see the world and communicate with others. Why is that materially different than being engrossed in a handheld video game with headphones in? Also all your examples of other stuff you do to occupy the time, they are all temporary. Why do…

No I haven't, and I am somewhat curious, but I'm also keeping up with it through some of the swift/apple podcasts and YT channels I follow. For me it's more about the cost, physical overhead, and (apparent) lack of other utility, which all-together would to me be sort of a more involved commitment than some little thing I may or may not ever bring out.. I'd only ever consider bringing something that is nearly invisib…

I'd add that this is all really only applies to various modes of commuting and travel, I have no qualms with the device itself, only the idea of using it regularly in-transit.

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Post by JoshTriplett »

iyn wrote: post #385
JoshTriplett wrote: post #138

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There are masks with full N95 filtration that have a fan built in to pull the air through the filter. Makes it much more comfortable to wear for long periods. (I switch to a mask with no metal in it for airport metal detectors, but I can switch back again immediately afterwards.)

Any recommendations for such masks?

The Philips "Fresh Air" or "Fresh Breeze" mask (different names in different regions).

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Post by latentsea »

AB1908 wrote: post #460
latentsea wrote: post #422

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I work lying down using my Meta Quest 3 sometimes when my back gets sore. I love it.

Can you elaborate? Do you use Virtual Desktop or have something like termux and ssh in to a separate box?

I use immersed. I use it on both my windows based work laptop as well as my Ubuntu based private laptop. It's pretty easy, and pretty smooth.

https://immersed.com/

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Post by RockRobotRock »

kreetx wrote: post #49
illegalsmile wrote: post #5

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Sounds great, what did you use for audio?

Would guess regular wired headphones/earplugs, as bluetooth has a lag which is pretty bad for gaming.

I exclusively use bluetooth headphones when gaming. The lag is actually not that bad unless you're playing something like a rhythm game.

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Post by RockRobotRock »

drewg123 wrote: post #230

For air travel, I really like my Xreal Air glasses now that I have a newer iPhone 16pro. Just plug in the USB-C cable, and you have a virtual 60" screen in front of you which works perfectly for Netflix, etc. And they cost less than 10% of the cost of an AVP, and are not limited to 2-3 hours of battery life (they get power from the phone). Note that if you have an older (lightning) iPhone, don't bother with these. Th…

For the price of an AVP, you can buy an Xreal for yourself, everyone in your row, the pilot, and flight attendant.

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Post by astrostl »

vladgur wrote: post #563
drewg123 wrote: post #230

For air travel, I really like my Xreal Air glasses now that I have a newer iPhone 16pro. Just plug in the USB-C cable, and you have a virtual 60" screen in front of you which works perfectly for Netflix, etc. And they cost less than 10% of the cost of an AVP, and are not limited to 2-3 hours of battery life (they get power from the phone). Note that if you have an older (lightning) iPhone, don't bother with these. Th…

I tried to find a feature/spec comparison of different xreal air models currently for sale on their website and utterly failed. Or they intentionally want to confuse people

It's pretty bad.

Air: the originals, still rather good, just reinforce the fragile temples

Air 2: the current standard, pile of minor upgrades and higher durability

Air 2 Pro: same as the Air 2 with an electronic dimming option for the lenses

Air 2 Ultra: the Air platform dev kit

The very bottom of the Air 2 page has an Air/2/Pro comparison.

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Post by mvkel »

spacebanana7 wrote: post #545
tqi wrote: post #382

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This is complete science fiction / FUD. Amazon can't even stop showing you ads for vacuum cleaners after you buy a vacuum cleaner, you think they have the compute for something that sophisticated?

If 1% of people buy a second vacuum that ad placement could be very rational. Some people have big houses, others want to buy another brand, and some people love their cleaner so much they buy a similar one for their cousin's birthday.

Opportunity cost is much higher than the revenue generated from a redundant vacuum

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Post by mbs159 »

steelframe wrote: post #339

My concerns are around the normalization of pointing high-resolution cameras at people around you all the time. Perhaps this specific device may have a company behind it that, at least at the moment, will resist handing the video feed with you in it to the data brokers. Make no mistake though, the data brokers are foaming at the mouth to get access to high-resolution constantly-streaming video content that includes y…

Also, at least in Europe, you would be filming people against their will, which could be a GDPR violation.
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