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Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by throwup238 »

vunderba wrote: post #497
jcims wrote: post #103

One thing I've noticed with the set of music generation tools (eg Udio, Suno) is that there's a sort of profound attachment to songs that you create. I've never made music the old fashioned way so I'm guessing the same could be true for that as well, but there are songs I've made on Udio that I personally think are amazing but nobody else really responds to. Conversely I can see similar levels of pride and attachment…

One thing I've noticed with the set of music generation tools (eg Udio, Suno) is that there's a sort of profound attachment to songs that you create. With all due respect, how could there be when at the click of a button you can generate entire songs? You didn't come up with the chord progression, the structure, the melodic motifs, or the lyrics. My attachment to my works is directly proportional to the amount of eff…

> You didn't come up with the chord progression, the structure, the melodic motifs, or the lyrics.

Both Suno and Udio allow paid subscribers to upload their own clips to extend from. It works for setting up a beat or extending a full composition from a DAW.

Suno's is more basic than Udio's which allows in painting and can create intros as well as extensions, but the tools are becoming more and more powerful for existing musicians. With Udio you can remix the uploaded clip so you can create the cord progression and melody using one set of instruments or styles (or hum it) and transform it into another.

I also use this feature all the time to move compositions from one service to the other. Suno is better at generating intros and interesting melodies while Udio is better at the editing afterwards.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by the_af »

throwup238 wrote: post #335
ddtaylor wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I regularly catch my kids watching AI generated content and they don't know it.

A surprising amount of it is really popular too. I recently figured out that the Movie Recaps channel was all AI when the generated voice slipped and mispronounced a word in a really unnatural way. They post videos almost daily and they get millions of views. Must be making bank.

A group I follow about hobby/miniatures (as in wargaming miniatures and dioramas) recently shared an "awesome" image of a diorama from another "hobby" group.

The image had all the telltale signs of being AI generated (too much detail, the lights & shadows were the wrong scale, the focus of the lens was odd for the kind of photo, etc). I checked that other group, and sure enough, they claim to be about sharing "miniature dioramas" but all they share is AI-generated crap.

And in the original group, which I'm a member of and is full of people who actually create dioramas -- let's say they are "subject matter experts" -- nobody suspected anything! To them, who are unfamiliar with AI art, the photo was of a real hand-made diorama.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by jprete »

dyauspitr wrote: post #126
solaris152000 wrote: post #98

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I had a similar thought. I knew someone who lived a life of crime, for a long time he was very poor like most criminals, but for a while made it big. He could buy anything he wanted, he always liked suits so bought very nice suits. But they meant nothing to him, he couldn't enjoy them, as he didn't earn then. I wonder if it will be the same with AI. When you can have anything for nothing, it has no value. So the digi…

He might be an exception because most people would have no problems riding around in a million dollar car whether they earned it or not.

Nobody cares about driving around in a million-dollar car. They want the money/power/status of the person who owns the million-dollar car. An unearned million-dollar car is practically a liability instead of an asset.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by lucasyvas »

Well I wouldn't have called it, but I think Meta is in the lead. They beat Apple to AR and affordable VR. Their AI tooling has basically caught up to OpenAI and at this rate will pass them - is anyone else even playing? Maybe their work culture is just better suited to realizing these technologies than the others.

They're not really showing signs of slowing down either. Hey, Zuck, always thought you were kind of lame in the past. But maybe you weren't a one trick pony after all.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by the_af »

newaccount74 wrote: post #53
TrackerFF wrote: post #6

All the vids have that instantly recognizable GenAI "sheen", for the lack of a better word. Also, I think the most obvious giveaway are all the micro-variations that happen along the edges, which give a fuzzy artifact.

I thought the movements were off. The little girl on the beach moves like an adult, the painter looks like a puppet, and everything is in slow motion?

To me they seem off, but off in the same sense real humans in ads always seem off. E.g. the fake smile of the smiling girl. That's what people look like in ads.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by complianceowl »

throw310822 wrote: post #564

The porntential is immense. Seriously though. This is the company that is betting hard on VR goggles. And these are engines that can produce real time dreams, 3d, photographic quality, obedient to our commands. No 3d models needed, no physics simulations, no ray tracing, no prebuilt environments and avatars. All simply dreamed up in real time, as requested by the user in natural language. It might be one of the most…

Hahahaha. I think Websters Dictionary may be interested in hiring you.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by jiggawatts »

throw310822 wrote: post #564

The porntential is immense. Seriously though. This is the company that is betting hard on VR goggles. And these are engines that can produce real time dreams, 3d, photographic quality, obedient to our commands. No 3d models needed, no physics simulations, no ray tracing, no prebuilt environments and avatars. All simply dreamed up in real time, as requested by the user in natural language. It might be one of the most…

Did you just pornify a word?

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by the8472 »

lucasyvas wrote: post #594

Well I wouldn't have called it, but I think Meta is in the lead. They beat Apple to AR and affordable VR. Their AI tooling has basically caught up to OpenAI and at this rate will pass them - is anyone else even playing? Maybe their work culture is just better suited to realizing these technologies than the others. They're not really showing signs of slowing down either. Hey, Zuck, always thought you were kind of lame…

> is anyone else even playing?

Deepmind. Protein folding and solving math problems is just less sexy.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by GrantS »

vunderba wrote: post #497
jcims wrote: post #103

One thing I've noticed with the set of music generation tools (eg Udio, Suno) is that there's a sort of profound attachment to songs that you create. I've never made music the old fashioned way so I'm guessing the same could be true for that as well, but there are songs I've made on Udio that I personally think are amazing but nobody else really responds to. Conversely I can see similar levels of pride and attachment…

One thing I've noticed with the set of music generation tools (eg Udio, Suno) is that there's a sort of profound attachment to songs that you create. With all due respect, how could there be when at the click of a button you can generate entire songs? You didn't come up with the chord progression, the structure, the melodic motifs, or the lyrics. My attachment to my works is directly proportional to the amount of eff…

You can absolutely specify your own lyrics and structure to Suno.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by aguaviva »

jsheard wrote: post #556
jetrink wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A friend who lives in North Carolina sent me a video of the raging floodwaters in his state- at least that's what the superimposed text claimed it was. When I looked closer, it was clearly an Indian city filled with Indian people and Indian cars. He hadn't noticed anything except the flood water. It reminded me of that famous selective attention test video[1]. I won't ruin it for those who haven't seen it, but it's a…

For the entire duration of the Russia/Ukraine war "combat footage" that is actually from the video game ARMA 3 has gone viral fairly regularly, and now exactly the same thing is happening with Israel/Iran.

And which YouTube happily promotes straight to the top, of course -- thanks to the efforts of its rocket-science algorithm team. (Not sure whether the ones I've been seeing were generated by that particular platform, but YT does seem to promote obviously fake and deceptively labelled "combat" footage with depressing regularity).
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