Apple Discontinues iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max [1], so iPhone 16 is the only new phone that can be purchased with Apple Intelligence.
[1] https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/09/apple-discontinues-ipho...
iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#592Earlier quoted context omitted.
The real advancements majority of users would notice: - Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones - More battery life. - Better camera (arguably already achieved) - lesser issue but fix the stupid bugs with storage/duplication with pictures and messages. I am already paying for a TB level plan with iCloud. How can my phone possibly run out of storage? That’s it. All the AI stuff is marginal at best and usel…
> Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones I don't think iMessage is big anywhere outside the US (which appears to account for about 9% of iPhone users). I don't think a majority of global users even knows there are different colors.
I have lived in Brazil, Australia, Spain, and France. iMessage was never a thing in these markets.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#593I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
> It's not that she's unable to understand the advances, she simply doesn't care.
Honestly that feels deep to me. I wonder to what extend all of the recent LLM advancements are lost on most people.
I also wonder if over a long enough time horizon, the "normies" as you call them catch up, or it goes the other way and the "techies" also start to not care (?)
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#594Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?
We're probably at least a decade away, but what happens when Apple _cant_ make a better iPhone?
Our tech is already great, we just need to distribute the awesomeness better. If innovation stops today, honestly I'm rather happy, we'd just keep building the tech we have until everyone gets their copy
That said, it seems pretty unrealistic that we can't figure out any incremental improvement until advancing our understanding of the universe. Both have been happening in parallel for centuries if not millennia
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#595I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse.
Oh yes. Switched from the iPhone X to a 13 Pro only because the battery life became unbearable.
Overall, the size/format/handling of the X was *way better*. Even the camera was *better on the X* except in low-light pictures which I don't really care about. The difference is noticeable on 4K screens and print, pictures were truthful without complex image enhancement algorithms that you can't disable (even not in RAW). Etc.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#596Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have this sinking suspicion that the AI segment today was so quick, so high level, and so future-tense ("Siri will be able to..."), identical to the similar segment at WWDC; I have to wonder how many of these features we'll actually see. I'm getting vibes like the old "Facetime will be an open protocol" promise; its like someone is making them do this, their soul isn't in it, and for that reason they still don't ha…
I think Apple will be the first to realize nobody wants to pay for “ai features”, and they are hella expensive to support
Apple will be one of the least impacted once the market corrects to this reality, because they can push off the cost of the inference silicon to customers for many many queries (especially given 3-4 years, as models become more efficient and Apple Silicon becomes more powerful).
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#597Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Battery replacement costs at Apple are $69-99 and offered all the way back to the iPhone SE 1st Generation. That's the all-in cost where you bring it in, they open it up, swap it out, and give your phone back to you. An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years hardly seems like it's goin…
> An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. I just got mine replaced on my pixel 6, total cost was $200. Still gonna hang onto it because there's no reason to replace but yeah labor costs for android are a bit ridiculous.
screen repair on my iphone 13 mini is $230, it sucks on both sides depending
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#598Looks pretty cool, but honestly I don't even know what model I own. They all feel the same ever since X
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#599Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Battery replacement costs at Apple are $69-99 and offered all the way back to the iPhone SE 1st Generation. That's the all-in cost where you bring it in, they open it up, swap it out, and give your phone back to you. An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years hardly seems like it's goin…
Assuming those prices are correct and the procedure is that convenient, it doesn't practically exist if most people aren't aware of it. From my casual observations most people suffer with bad batteries until buying a new model.
If you look up battery health and it shows as degraded (or you follow the notification to get there), it gives you support options to schedule an appointment or send it in for repair.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#600I’m probably in the minority, but a thing I’d love to see is a much stronger flashlight. It’s silly, but the flashlight is something I use almost daily and having a more powerful one would be quite useful.
I think that's problematic from a power consumption point of view (and heat)