I wonder how people would have felt if, instead of releasing stuff about the USA, he had released it about your country's doings instead.
Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
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Assange literally had a show on Russia Today. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-assange-tv/wikilea... WikiLeaks founder to host Kremlin-funded TV show
After he had been under house arrest for the bogus Swedish charges ...
Sorry, if you are prosecuted and no other network gives you a show, what will you do? I'm sure he would have taken a CNN show as well.
This was also in 2012, before the whole Euromaidan thing. Many European politicians lined up to be friends with Russia.
Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
#593In an ideal world we would get to do a reverse investigation to understand which government officials were complicit in his very obviously politically motivated detention, action would be taken upon those individuals to ensure accountability, and the system itself would be updated so powerful interests can't abuse the law like this. How far are we from this world?
Cheers. what say you to Navalny’s torture, detainment, and death?
I don't know a lot about it, on the face of it I think its terrible. Why do you ask?
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#594My view of him changed when I saw a recording of him in a documentary saying that murdered Iraqi translators who worked with the US military got what they deserved for working with the enemy.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/sep/18/julian...
David Leigh and Luke Harding's history of WikiLeaks describes how journalists took Assange to Moro's, a classy Spanish restaurant in central London. A reporter worried that Assange would risk killing Afghans who had co-operated with American forces if he put US secrets online without taking the basic precaution of removing their names. "Well, they're informants," Assange replied. "So, if they get killed, they've got it coming to them. They deserve it." A silence fell on the table as the reporters realised that the man the gullible hailed as the pioneer of a new age of transparency was willing to hand death lists to psychopaths. They persuaded Assange to remove names before publishing the State Department Afghanistan cables. But Assange's disillusioned associates suggest that the failure to expose "informants" niggled in his mind.
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#595Earlier quoted context omitted.
Clinton is not democracy. Anti-Clinton is not anti democracy. Being anti the US government is not anti democratic. And no, letting USA or any other nation for that matter commit war crimes quietly does not support democracy.
When Russia enables it, amplifies it, builds their disinformation and propaganda machine around those facts and there’s no counter weight it gets into the realm of anti-democratic adjacent. There’s nothing simple when it comes to international politics. But foreign meddling by an adversary is a pretty bright line.
The US enabled it. If there were no wrongdoings, there would be nothing to leak.
Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
#596My view of him changed when I saw a recording of him in a documentary saying that murdered Iraqi translators who worked with the US military got what they deserved for working with the enemy.
Yeah Afghans too "Well, they're informants," Assange replied. "So, if they get killed, they've got it coming to them. They deserve it." https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/sep/18/julian...
I'm ambivalent about his jailing. If you are going to get heroic people killed then you can't cry too much if you get jailed a bit.
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#597The whole saga is an interesting lesson in how a noble cause can end up helping anti-democratic forces. Assange gave the public invaluable information that would not have been know otherwise, but he ended up playing right into the hands of the people who wanted to discredit Clinton. Politics is complicated.
If he’s not actually a Russian agent then there are likely plenty of actual Russian agents doing a worse job of it than him.
If he is a Russian agent, Russia does more to help the US democracy than the US itself.
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#598Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it would be quite the diplomatic travesty for them to switch to arresting him after choosing to trial him in the closest court of Australia and credit him for time in prison already. https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1805385141239660627?ref_src...
What would the actual consequence be? Almost certainly nothing. That said, if the Americans wanted to drag this out further, they'd simply drag it out further, so it seems highly unlikely this is some ploy, however it's not impossible. Assange is more easily "forgotten" if they actually managed to imprison him in The States. But we'll see. I'll only completely believe it once he touches down in Australia.
In the context of the elections, it seems like the US government/Biden admin "fucking" with Assange would probably be detrimental, considering parts of the MAGA movement is "We So MAGA would probably take up his cause, but with the Biden admin freeing him (fingers crossed), that's one less thing they can use against Biden in the elections.
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if I were him I would take the first flight to Moscow, can't trust the Australian government, they're a US vassal state, sabotaging their own economy and relationship with China to please the US. Safer to go an enemy state of the US in this case. There's a reason Snowden's still alive while all those Boeing and other whistleblowers are either dead or jailed.
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#600Earlier quoted context omitted.
Legitimate? The case was a disgrace to the Swedish justice system, as many legal experts have commented.
It's not the first time Sweden is used as the stupid Goat by the US: https://www.amazon.com/Secret-War-Against-Sweden-Submarine/d... and probably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Olof_Palme
I think there are far, far too many unknowns and possibilities regarding the murder of Olof Palme to warrant the word "probably" where you use it!