Now available in Canada.
Quietly since the post a few days ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39217046), Google added Canada to one of the allowed countries.
Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#592Sucks for Gemini... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol)
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#593Earlier quoted context omitted.
More simply, with Bard and Duet AI names retired, it looks like this: Gemini Models gemini.google.com ------------------------------------ Gemini Nano Gemini Pro -> Gemini (free) Gemini Ultra -> Gemini Advanced ($20/month) Where each size (Nano, Pro, and Ultra) will be versioned going forward (similar to GPT-2,3,3.5,4) starting at 1.0 today.
Yes, it's that simple, but not really that simple. For example, Bard is embedded as a chatbot inside Google Messages (at least for some subset of beta users). Imho, this is a killer app sort of feature, but it hasn't been mentioned at all in the Gemini PR. Also, there's now the new Google One AI Premium sub for $20/mo, which adds Gemini to the older Google One Premium sub ($10/mo). However, that legacy sub was somewh…
>For example, Bard is embedded as a chatbot inside Google Messages (at least for some subset of beta users). Imho, this is a killer app sort of feature, but it hasn't been mentioned at all in the Gemini PR.
I haven't seen anything about this in the public , but I imagine this will also be called Gemini, just as Gemini-integration in other products is simply being called Gemini.
If you are confused about subscriptions, here's another breakdown:
Basic: $2/month for 100 GB
Standard: $3/month for 200 GB
Premium: $10/month for 2 TB
AI Premium: $20/month for 2 TB + Gemini Advanced (Gemini Ultra chatbot)
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#594In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…
On logic it cannot handle the Dumb Monty Hall problem at all:
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#595Just tried it and it seems like indeed it is worse than GPT-4 in general, but better with some specific things - and most importantly for me, it has a ton of very new information in the model itself without having to search the web.
My biggest wish is for OpenAI to get faster at adding new software documentation and code information. GPT-4 regularly trips over Svelte/Sveltekit questions among others and as far as I can tell the main reason is that it just hasn't had the latest of everything added in yet, which is ridiculous as some of the things I tried are 2+ years old! Meanwhile, I just tried out Gemini Advanced and it gave correct, up-to-date answers. Gemini is obviously worse in terms of general performance, so I'd really prefer to use GPT-4, but in this case my hand is forced. How hard can it be to just scan some documentation and code every few weeks?
OpenAI's approach to integrating new information is also infuriating. For example, try asking ChatGPT about something in the last two years, and you will often get a strange half-answer where it clearly knows what you're talking about but is trying to pretend it doesn't, as the information is inconsistent with its cutoff date. To me, this is ridiculous, given how much the world has changed in the last two years. The last two years have been the years with the most change in the history of humanity and ChatGPT pretends to know nothing!? So absurd it is almost comical!
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#596In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…
On logic it cannot handle the Dumb Monty Hall problem at all: https://g.co/gemini/share/33c5fb45738f
This is pretty funny, though to be honest, I skimmed the question and would have answered the same until I re-read it with your prompts.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#597In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…
Also as time goes by, it'll get smoothly integrated into docs/gmail/maps/calendar/youtube/search/colab/sheets/android/assistant So Gemini could by your one-stop AI shop for everything. Only Microsoft can match it (but Microsoft doesn't have a popular maps, youtube, mail, smartphone OS service). Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube). It really is Google's…
Strange to say Apple doesn't have productivity tools when Pages, Sheets, and Keynote exist on every Mac. I get the scale arguments, but Handoff and iCloud integration are a sleeper IF you've bought into the ecosystem...
Also hard to overstate just how much more valuable the enterprise market is over the consumer market when comparing Microsoft vs. Google as one-stop anything shops.
I don't see Google as having the obvious dominant position to make the argument it's their race to lose, considering Microsoft has a stake in chatGPT and is actively integrating it into their browser and productivity suites.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#598In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…
> censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times about medical topics) I think there's a chance for some country to become a center of healthcare simply by allowing AI that gives medical advice. Especially if a country already encourages medical tourism, this might be the next level.
The risks involving hallucinations are too damn high still, and may always be.
I had a similar line of thought with AI therapists. It could be massively beneficial if perfect, but the risk in seriously messing with someone's well-being is significant and shouldn't be handwaved away.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#599A rebrand this early sends unhealthy signals.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#600Just tried it and it seems like indeed it is worse than GPT-4 in general, but better with some specific things - and most importantly for me, it has a ton of very new information in the model itself without having to search the web. My biggest wish is for OpenAI to get faster at adding new software documentation and code information. GPT-4 regularly trips over Svelte/Sveltekit questions among others and as far as I c…
> How hard can it be to just scan some documentation and code every few weeks?
oh dear...