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In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by chuckadams »

dutchCourage wrote: post #322
kstrauser wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Along those lines, does macOS 14's Safari's support for "Add to Dock" count as installing a PWA? I have a couple frequently used websites in my dock, acting more or less like regular Mac apps (or at least like Electron apps). What would a "proper" PWA add to that? (Not a leading question. I'm genuinely asking people who like and use PWAs: is there something cool I'm missing out on?)

You're correct. I'm actually not sure what installing a PWA does that visiting the website in your browser doesn't, but it's essentially opening the website in a headless browser. So very much like electron except instead of having to bundle the browser in the executable it uses your machine's browser.

> headless browser

I think you mean chromeless (an amusingly confusing term when it's chrome hosting the PWA). If it were headless, you wouldn't see anything at all.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by torstenvl »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #513
torstenvl wrote: post #318

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> He actively gave to organizations that were formed to restrict freedom. > And the LBGTQ community, we're not going to sit and be quiet about those sorts of things. You seriously don't see the irony in this at all? Retaliation against someone for what they do in their personal lives is... what, exactly, if not restricting freedom? Purporting to speak for an entire community without any authority or consent is... wha…

Do you not know what protected statuses are? There's a reason those exist. There's a reason it's allowed to penalize someone for being bigoted but not for being gay. This is not a symmetrical/both-sides thing.

I can't quite tell if you're trying to discuss policy (which is currently being discussed in this thread) or the law.

If you're trying to discuss the law, then your summary is both paradigmatically flawed (conflation of legislative versus constitutional protections, protected status versus suspect classification, etc.) and factually incorrect (being gay was not a protected class in 2008 in almost any jurisdiction, and making a political donation is not an action subject to the Civil Rights Act).

If instead you're trying to discuss principles, then your explicit embrace of being unprincipled seems... odd. Principles always apply symmetrically and to both sides. That's what makes them principles.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by gerdesj »

linux_is_nice wrote: post #543
rebolek wrote: post #501

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I always read that some sites don't work with Firefox but the writers never mentions which sites are broken. So I'm curious, which sites are broken in vanilla FF?

One of them happens to be the educational site https://www.deltamath.com/

OK so what is broken? The homepage comes up fine and a few clicks seem fine. Do I have to sign up to see issues?

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by joelanman »

bluescrn wrote: post #82
Slackwise wrote: post #44

I use PWAs extensively and Firefox decided they won't bother to implement them, so that's going to be a no from me. Rather than wanting the web platform to be first class, they really want it to languish as a second-class citizen. Really sad, seeing as they also fired devs, and invested in "AI" instead.

What's the real use case of PWAs? They just seem like another way to attempt to shift users from the 'proper web' into a place where blocking ads is more difficult. Personally, I wish we could purge the vast majority of 'apps' from the world, they shouldn't be apps in the first place, most have no need to run native code, they should be links to websites, sites that can work on more-or-less any device in any browser.

I use Elk Mastodon client - being able to install it as a PWA is great - I get a nice icon on my mobile screen same as any other app, and it runs full screen without an address bar. I can switch between it and other apps, I don't see the downside really

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by dave78 »

PUSH_AX wrote: post #489
thruway516 wrote: post #458

This being HN, I'm really surprised no one has mentioned Brave. Brave is what Firefox was a few years ago (and what firefox claims to be but isn't) in terms of privacy and comes pre-loaded with an ad-blocker that uses the same list as ublock. It's also faster and less of a memory hog. I switched from firefox as main driver and haven't looked back. It is chromium based but I don't see this as a drawback. But this is 2…

I do use it but I just wish crypto wasn’t baked in.

Agreed, though I recognize that they need income too to avoid Mozillas's problems, so I can tolerate some amount of them experimenting with revenue strategies.

That said, I turned off the crypto stuff on day 1 and it has stayed off and I never even think about it anymore.

Brave is great and I think more people should give it a shot.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by hellotomyrars »

roblh wrote: post #300
closewith wrote: post #134

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Nah, there's plenty of examples of sites breaking on Firefox. For example, the recent degraded performance on Youtube linked to Firefox User Agent strings.

And Netflix STILL refusing to play above 720p on Firefox if you’re running Linux, which I’m sure many here are.

To be fair, this is not a Firefox issue.

Unless you use Edge on Windows you still have the same limitation (or the windows store Netflix app).

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by sevagh »

gunapologist99 wrote: post #578

> switching to the only remaining ethical web browser, Firefox Mozilla is actually not an ethical organization, if ethics mean the things that are espoused in this article. Mozilla receives literally billions from Google[1] every year -- $26,000,000,000.00 in 2021 alone, with only 3% market share. That's a lot of zeros -- some startups might be rather happy to see an annual 26 billion funding round! Mozilla forced pr…

I love Firefox and I hate Mozilla.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by billytetrud »

I got so tired of dealing with Google's AMP so I switched to Firefox just on mobile. It's fine, tho the url bar doesn't work as well as on chrome. Other than that I've gotten used to it well enough. I'm starting to hate everything Google does. All their products are steadily getting worse and worse as they get more bloated. I'll consider switching to Firefox on desktop.
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