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Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by ordu »

heresie-dabord wrote: post #463
Fluorescence wrote: post #426

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like that we sent unsolicited nudes. An act I could likely be convicted for if I sent it to a neighbour no matter how nice the gold disk or long the journey... ... but now I look at the pictures on wikipedia and see there are no nudes or even a Vitruvian Man. How strange to have a belief of many decades suddenly corrected. Seems that I have mentally fused the earlier Pioneer plaque with Voyager. https://en.wikipedi…

> After NASA had received criticism over the nudity on the Pioneer plaque Let's just think about this for a moment. Some people were sufficiently prudish and/or puritanical to make a formal objection about an illustration of our species -- an illustration being sent into the Cosmos -- into the Cosmos where there are _no other humans_ -- an illustration, I say, that was destined to leave our Solar System and likely ne…

> Some people were sufficiently prudish and/or puritanical to make a formal objection about an illustration of our species -- an illustration being sent into the Cosmos -- into the Cosmos where there are _no other humans_ -- an illustration, I say, that was destined to leave our Solar System and likely never be seen again.

It is not exactly correct. This illustration is widely known now. People look at it, not aliens. I'd say the whole idea to send a picture is directed not at aliens but at humans: it is plainly improbable someone will see the original plaque.

I can imagine that someone finds this plaque, but it will be space archaeologists from Earth. Once again: humans.

This plaque was made for humans. They keep saying that it was made for aliens, but they like to daydream.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by saalweachter »

miah_ wrote: post #165
smudgy wrote: post #135

If NASA can't contact it again and it has bravely gone into the great darkness alone with a piece of us, let's hope it's eventually found by a race capable of understanding the fragment of memory it carries. If you're lost V'ger, safe travels.

The Voyagers also carry the Golden Records, which are full of information about Earth, its species, humans, samples of different languages, and music. It also has a description of our solar system, and details how to listen to the record. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record

So we're going to end up in an Awesome Mix Tape situation, with our lost V'ger rocking out to the music of its homeworld?

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by bmitc »

leptons wrote: post #577
bmitc wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jesus christ. I'm not not accepting that. So just to end this, what would you and the others like the title to be given the article is perfectly clear and with a title that is substantively different? So we don't have to non-discuss this anymore.

You're entitled to be as obstinate as you want to be, and as wrong as you want to be - I don't really care what you do. The fact is, sending information to a receiver that is receiving is in fact the definition of one-way communication , whether you want to refute it or not. You're dying on this hill.

I'm not dying on any hill or refuting anything. The point is the title is fine, could be mildly improved, though isn't outright incorrect, and that this entire conversation has been a waste of all of our time. Haha.

If I'm talking to a person, and then they just start repeating a nonsense sound no matter what I say to them, is it really inaccurate to say communication has stopped, especially when it's immediately followed up with by saying communication has broken down and explained further? No, not really. Certainly isn't wrong enough to have this long, fruitless discussion that I feel embarassed I participated in.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by bmitc »

malfist wrote: post #508
bmitc wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jesus christ. I'm not not accepting that. So just to end this, what would you and the others like the title to be given the article is perfectly clear and with a title that is substantively different? So we don't have to non-discuss this anymore.

It's really quite simple. The headline should tell us what happened. Voyager 1 is sending repeated data back to Earth. I think I saw an article on tech dirt saying the spacecraft was sending stuck in "groundhog's day" that I thought was clever

Is it repeated data? Or is it repeated gibberish? I thought they weren't able to interpret the data as anything.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by hamdouni »

nullhole wrote: post #589

@dang - could you change the title of this? It is factually wrong. The spacecraft is still communicating with Earth. This gives information (and may be a better link anyway): "Engineers Working to Resolve Issue With Voyager 1 Computer" (Dec. 12, 2023) https://blogs.nasa.gov/sunspot/2023/12/12/engineers-working-...

It's the article's title...

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by debo_ »

ponector wrote: post #509
Fluorescence wrote: post #426

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like that we sent unsolicited nudes. An act I could likely be convicted for if I sent it to a neighbour no matter how nice the gold disk or long the journey... ... but now I look at the pictures on wikipedia and see there are no nudes or even a Vitruvian Man. How strange to have a belief of many decades suddenly corrected. Seems that I have mentally fused the earlier Pioneer plaque with Voyager. https://en.wikipedi…

Wikipedia is full of nudes. From classic pictures with Venus to parts of the body, like labia.

I don't know, photos of labia are really only lip service to nudity. /joke

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by krick »

hamdouni wrote: post #595
nullhole wrote: post #589

@dang - could you change the title of this? It is factually wrong. The spacecraft is still communicating with Earth. This gives information (and may be a better link anyway): "Engineers Working to Resolve Issue With Voyager 1 Computer" (Dec. 12, 2023) https://blogs.nasa.gov/sunspot/2023/12/12/engineers-working-...

It's the article's title...

It's still factually wrong. And has over 1000 upvotes... (Obviously, because it's factually wrong.)

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by leptons »

bmitc wrote: post #593
leptons wrote: post #577

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're entitled to be as obstinate as you want to be, and as wrong as you want to be - I don't really care what you do. The fact is, sending information to a receiver that is receiving is in fact the definition of one-way communication , whether you want to refute it or not. You're dying on this hill.

I'm not dying on any hill or refuting anything. The point is the title is fine, could be mildly improved, though isn't outright incorrect, and that this entire conversation has been a waste of all of our time. Haha. If I'm talking to a person, and then they just start repeating a nonsense sound no matter what I say to them, is it really inaccurate to say communication has stopped, especially when it's immediately fol…

You wrote:

>Communication means an exchange of information. Receiving a signal does not.

You were wrong. Communication does not explicitly require response.

The definition of "communication":

>"means of sending or receiving information, such as phone lines or computers."

It says "Sending or receiving information". It does not say "sending and receiving".

The spacecraft can be receiving perfectly fine, and that is communication from earth to the spacecraft. We may not be getting a valid response, but that does not mean we haven't communicated information to the spacecraft.

This is the obtuse hill you chose to keep dying on.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by dredmorbius »

manicennui wrote: post #254
dredmorbius wrote: post #182

Among my increasingly prized possessions is an original copy of Nasa's "Voyager Encounters Jupiter* report, detailing mission findings, and featuring some of the image highlights. Internet Archive, bless them, have this online: https://archive.org/details/NASA_NTRS_Archive_19800025809/mo... >

Looks like NASA provides it too: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19800025809

Thanks!

Just noting: the Nasa download appears to be a scan of the same original as IA are offering, based on stamps and pencilled notations on the cover.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by thih9 »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #394
londons_explore wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the contents of your computer is anything like the contents of most old people's attics, there is a good chance your descendants really don't want to go through all of it. They'll just chuck it in the trash without even opening it. Turns out the next generation has their own life to worry about, and doesn't care much for their ancestors' stuff (unless it's money... they love money...).

Pretty much. Anecdotes about lives of elderly people are nice when you are sitting an evening with a glass of wine and plate of cheese. Otherwise who cares? Nothing is worse than trying to go through bunch of old faded photos where no one - even the owner - can identify who is actually in the picture. I guess in our day and age we could write extensive meta data about where and when a picture was taken and who is in…

> Otherwise who cares?

People who can profit. And the idea of profit might be different in future.

That attic might contain a priceless vintage synthesizer, that encrypted drive might contain a priceless set of vintage unpublished club penguin screenshots that would make its AI approximation 0.03% more accurate. Etc.

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