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EU data regulator bans personalised advertising on Facebook and Instagram

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Re: EU data regulator bans personalised advertising on Facebook and Instagram

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nonrandomstring wrote: post #545
Levitz wrote: post #518

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More and more people are okay with losing with privacy though, and the more who take that position, the more you lose by not taking it.

> More and more people are okay with losing with privacy though, and the more who take that position, the more you lose by not taking it. I'm trying to simply that with an ear for contradiction; If P; the more group A lose -> if NOT P; the more group NOT A lose. For P -> L = some loss of privacy (Okay it's late and I'm clutching at it a little, but something doesn't ring true) It seems like a formulation of "network…

it would help for you to define your variables (A, P, L) and notation (=, ->, "lose")

Or, if you could, would you mind rewriting it in english, please?

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Post by alkonaut »

freeone3000 wrote: post #535
phone8675309 wrote: post #452

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How many of these are worth the cost of the telemetry?

Obviously none, but that’s the point — you cannot have one without the other in the rest of the world. The EU believes this to be wrong to the point of being illegal. Which is why EU versions of windows — the N SKUs — ship without it.

Are you sure that’s an official difference in N? Thought it was only some bundles like media player, Skype etc that were removed

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bluelu wrote: post #268

I don't understand why this only applies for Facebook then. 2 1/2 years, ago they opened up a loop hole for newspapers that they are explicitly allowed to do it (Either you pay, or when you use their free version, you must accept to be tracked for behavioural advertising). Are they any better than facebook? Some example news sites: www.zeit.de, www.spiegel.de More information on this: https://www.heise.de/news/E-Priv…

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pembrook wrote: post #75

Ok, my contrarian hot take (for HN at least). The real entities we need to be afraid of in regards to privacy are governments & politicians, not companies & entrepreneurs. The worst thing a company can do is try to sell you more soap. The government on the other hand can literally ruin your life (or even end it in some countries). The EU is doing a fantastic job of keeping everyone distracted by pointing the finger a…

> The real entities we need to be afraid of in regards to privacy are governments & politicians, not companies & entrepreneurs

Thankfully, governments are incompetent and inefficient enough to prove a real threat on this matter when it comes to tech

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Post by nmilo »

Brystephor wrote: post #324
xlii wrote: post #97

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A scenario from today, context: I don't have Meta/Facebook/Instagram account, my spouse has. We were discussing haircuts in the morning and I showed her some photos online. 15 minutes later she opened Facebook and saw hairdresser commercial with THOSE EXACT haircuts we were discussing. I was using iOS with no-track and adblocker on top of that. My guess is that link was made using IP address. Meta/Facebook was proces…

> We were discussing haircuts in the morning and I showed her some photos online. 15 minutes later she opened Facebook and saw hairdresser commercial with THOSE EXACT haircuts we were discussing. Genuine question but what's the harm here? Or what's the negative consequence? I understand that this is creepy, people find it uncomfortable or odd, but what about it is harmful or so negative?

It being creepy is the harm/negative consequence. We feel innately creeped out about something like that because we're raised to value privacy the same way we value safety and security. A violation of privacy doesn't need some negative consequence to be harmful, it's harmful in and of itself.

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[deleted] wrote: post #590
mjburgess wrote: post #90

Comments here so far focus on personalised ads as the issue -- but that's a symptom of what's being banned, which is the mass collection of personal data. Personalised ads are beside the point. The issue is how they are personalised, namely by building a rich profile of user behaviour based on non-consensual tracking. It isnt even clear that there's a meaningful sense of 'consent' to what modern ad companies (ie., go…

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kwanbix wrote: post #6

I know in HN there is a big "personalized advertising" is bad sentiment, but I don't get what the problem is. I mean, if I am looking for a notebook, I rather have FB/IG (or Google or whatever), show me adds of a notebook that I might end up buying, instead of the generic poker/porn adds that we had on the beginning of the internet. It is almost impossible to have a free internet without ads. So on one side, people w…

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