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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by lyu07282 »

AntonyGarand wrote: post #582
oefrha wrote: post #580

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Also, when I visit the #all page I get two weird window.alert()’s, first says 5, second says 1. I’m on mobile Safari now so can’t really investigate, but is the site getting script injected??

Yes, the site is vulnerable to XSS, couple of interesting payloads on there so far The current top post uses this XSS to have users upvote it: Which sends a POST request to `posttag/add-vote` for the post labeled `x`

I suppose that makes sense if you get payed for upvotes, stored xss is probably just the most low hanging fruit, if they messed that up I'd expect everything from csrf, clickjacking, sqli and more, everyone has the incentive to look and exploit. They should probably get a thorough white box review.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by chihuahua »

lopis wrote: post #565
bardak wrote: post #246

The use of tags vs discrete communities keeps it from being a viable alternative to Reddit for me. I have a real disdain for tags for user generated content. Every site I have seen use tags I end up having to wade through a ton of spam or vaugly related content to whatever tag I am looking for. The only exception I can think of is Hashtags for twitter but that is due to the character limit. I understand that people s…

I think having a single "sub" in the beginning is fundamental int he beginning. Otherwise you just have dozens of sub-forums that are ghost towns. Eventually moving to discreet sub-forums when traffic increases seems like a reasonable compromise.

But that would mean that initially, I have to wade through all kinds of worthless annoying stuff. I suspect it will be 40% politics, 30% sportsball, 20% Kardashians, 9% car culture, and 1% other. I'm going to give up before we ever get to sub-forums.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by mr_gibbins »

root_axis wrote: post #36

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

Maybe it's the ol' HN hug-of-death but I'm getting a mostly blank screen on the #ALL page with a single post from 'Krazy', contents a single If it helps, I'm on Edge v.114.0.1823.43, Windows 10.

Great concept though, I like the idea of subscription money going to popular content creators but worry this simply encourages lazy posting of popular meme content, basically a monetised karma farm. The capitalists that we are, many will find a way to optimise post engagement against the algorithm and many will be pursuing hard cash rather than social interaction.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

abhibeckert wrote: post #585
WesolyKubeczek wrote: post #543

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The payment gateways still use iframes, they just don’t tell you that. This is also why styling such forms is always some species of wonky.

The gateways I use don't, or at least give me the option not to. Those iFrames cause all kinds of headaches when the user hits the back button or double clicks a submit button or does any number of other things that happen thousands of times a day on a moderately high traffic site, and when it messes up you either miss out on a sale (ouch) or charge the customer twice (double ouch).

> The gateways I use don't, or at least give me the option not to.

They usually don't tell you they do. For example, both Stripe and Square use iFrames; otherwise it's not possible to hide credit card entry from your main application.

There are gateways that redirect you away and return you back after payment, but that's a whole another story.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by jeremyjh »

Zetice wrote: post #590
jeremyjh wrote: post #583

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Paying the servers is not enough. For it to have a future, it really needs paid employees. See also: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ZpDnRCeef2CLEFeKM/money-the-...

Couldn't disagree more, both on future vision of what this could be, as well as the implication that I said, "paying the servers is enough." "Sustain the site" involves growing the site, but none of that involves obtaining millions of users. Also lesswrong is a cesspool of pseudointellectual bullshit. Eliezer Yudkowsky's ideas don't stand up to reality on average, and the people who "follow" him tend not to understan…

I agree about LW in general, but I also found the idea of paying people to get things done to be a good one nonetheless.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by haroldp »

cutemonster wrote: post #547
johnnyanmac wrote: post #394

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Actually, yes. many trolls do it simply because it's easy to do. adding even a $1 barrier to entry would cull a lot. Ofc there are determined and financuially comfortable trolls out there that would still make a few dozen, but those few are easier to stamp out without the noise of low effort trolls. >if there is monetary incentive to get upvotes/attention seems like it could pencil out worst case, it helps pay for th…

> financuially comfortable trolls out there that would still make a few dozen No, tens of thousands. Nation state actors have troll armies, and $2 extra per astro turfing account would be coffee money compared to the salaries they already pay their trolls. Websearch for 50 cent army

This doesn't work well. How do you pay the $2? With a credit card? Tens of thousands of accounts all with the same one? Tens of thousands of credit cards?

In a 50 army, one individual can be paid a third world wage to register free accounts all day long to post comments. The cost of $2 per comment would massively outweigh their wages.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

root_axis wrote: post #36

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

> cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design)

instead do unimaginative, stupid and ugly design. Reddit will shut down old.reddit within the next 16 months and when that happens there will be a gap in the market to grab the most dedicated of reddit's audience with something that looks as ugly but works as great as old.reddit does.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by [deleted] »

jjcm wrote: post #89
dbcurtis wrote: post #60

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I really do love the idea. But in addition to the moderation risks others have mentioned, are you prepared to issue tax documents to every jurisdiction where you might be rendering payments?

Yes ish, as currently I'm doing payouts via Stripe Connect (and likewise only paying out in countries that Stripe Connect supports, as it takes care of that aspect). Everything is theoretical until battle-tested however.

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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by xnx »

idiotsecant wrote: post #32

The idea of posters getting real money instead of fake internet points when their posts do well seems interesting, but maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences. Moderation will be extremely important to prevent low-effort memes and content regurgitation and the like from saturating your main channels. Have you considered how you will encourage moderation and keep it free from the corrosive influen…

I want a social site where you: Pay to sign up ($10.00), pay to upvote ($0.01 = 1 vote), get paid when your content is upvoted. There's no advertising system because everything is an ad.
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