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Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by rimeice »

Hippocrates wrote: post #444

3,500 seems SO worth it if this can be used to comfortably replace external displays for long periods of time. If I don't need external monitors, I don't need my large desk, and I don't need my home office, which adds like 100k to the price of any home I'd consider. I'd just work from a bedroom, a closet, or my deck if I had this. It would be amazing if I could use this to do more work outside, while benefitting from…

> use this to do more work outside

Can’t wait for the Apple Vision Pro suntan.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by caconym_ »

paxys wrote: post #182

The hardware is no doubt impressive, as expected, but I just can't see myself in any of the situations they keep showing in VR/AR demos. Does someone really sit on their couch, put on a massive headset, and scroll through their vacation photos? Does someone watch an entire 2+ hour movie with a sweaty headset strapped to them (and plugged into a socket) instead of on a couch with their family/friends? Would I want to…

> massive

> sweaty

> strapped

> instead of [...] their family/friends

> generated avatars

> kids [...] grab my headset, strap it on [...] or just go join them?

> cutting myself off from the outside world

> half-assed substitute for consuming the same content

> Show me the actual future

It seems like you're trying very hard to convince yourself this will be a bad product that is unpleasant to use and carries unavoidable antisocial externalities. It could very well be all of that and more, but I don't really understand why you would bother with this level of self-assured negativity before there are even any unbiased hands-on impressions out there. Apple is historically very good at execution.

> Would I rather work on this all day instead of a laptop?

You know, I very well might!

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

paxys wrote: post #182

The hardware is no doubt impressive, as expected, but I just can't see myself in any of the situations they keep showing in VR/AR demos. Does someone really sit on their couch, put on a massive headset, and scroll through their vacation photos? Does someone watch an entire 2+ hour movie with a sweaty headset strapped to them (and plugged into a socket) instead of on a couch with their family/friends? Would I want to…

I totally agree with everything you've written, but I'd just put forth that I think what Apple did with Apple Watch could be instructive here.

Apple Watch was basically originally marketed as a high-end app/notification device (remember the original 10k gold Apple Watch?) Over time they realized the real target market and use case was as a fitness/health tracker, and they doubled down on features and design for that.

With these AR/VR headsets, I agree that gaming is the one use case I've actually seen these headsets be great at, but all these companies keep trying to extend it to our daily lives that nobody seems to really want. But I could believe Apple would eventually come around to seeing one or two really good target markets (gaming and watching movies maybe?) and then just really hone in on that. Folks say games will be a tough sell because Apple isn't really known as a gaming platform, but I don't think this is really true if you take iOS games into account. I can easily see game developers wanting to build for this given the hardware capabilities.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by ncr100 »

nunez wrote: post #553

Is anyone else terrified that this is the beginning of the end of "outside"? Like, I can see people wearing these full-time, everywhere, to "enhance" life at first with the ultimate goal of these _replacing_ life (i.e. why go outside, where you have to spend money and deal with people, when you can just wear these and be in a world that you control without leaving your couch?) Or am I just becoming a curmudgeon? If I…

No - may I still reply to your question?

I think MORE efficient indoor-tech, that allows you to get your stuff done MORE QUICKLY so you can go outside, is a goal we all should seek, as technologists.

Not forcing users outside in order to get their work done . . (not that is what you were saying).

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by ncr100 »

b_d98 wrote: post #508

This seems like incredible hardware from apple, but I'm really hoping for root access to be more prevalent in the mixed-reality space. I really don't want to see another ios and android walled garden with so much creative potential on these devices, especially considering Meta seems to be taking the android position in the space.

it may serve in the same way the ipad / tablet adoption did - though this is more limited as it's single-user & ipads can be shared easily multi-user

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by 1letterunixname »

Hippocrates wrote: post #444

3,500 seems SO worth it if this can be used to comfortably replace external displays for long periods of time. If I don't need external monitors, I don't need my large desk, and I don't need my home office, which adds like 100k to the price of any home I'd consider. I'd just work from a bedroom, a closet, or my deck if I had this. It would be amazing if I could use this to do more work outside, while benefitting from…

Quest Pro does the exact same thing for 1/3 the price. It has all sorts of enterprise features and Microsoft is on-board with it.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by foobarbecue »

paxys wrote: post #182

The hardware is no doubt impressive, as expected, but I just can't see myself in any of the situations they keep showing in VR/AR demos. Does someone really sit on their couch, put on a massive headset, and scroll through their vacation photos? Does someone watch an entire 2+ hour movie with a sweaty headset strapped to them (and plugged into a socket) instead of on a couch with their family/friends? Would I want to…

I watch tv shows often and movies occasionally on my Quest 2. Often the TV shows aren't in 4K anyway so I'm not losing any resolution. The main reason I do it is the perfect darkness you get with the headset on. Shows like Silo are too dark to watch during the day in my southern california apartment. I know I could get blackout curtains or whatever but the Quest is actually cheaper and easier.
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