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Considering Elon an "effective leader" is certainly a take.
He may not be a well liked or a good leader. But that is different from effectiveness.
Elon is a highly effective leader, simply because his leadership has effectively carried out its objectives. and that is a categorical truth.
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> "a person of color" (as if white is not a color, but whatever) You might want to look into the historical basis for this term before you make snarky comments about it. It comes across as dismissive. My understanding is the term "person of color" evolved from "colored" (which originally just meant black (in America at least)) and now encompasses non-white people.
"Colored" is now considered offensive by most, so why isn't "person of color" also viewed the same way? Both terms describe the same opressive system of nonsense racial hierarchy, after all.
This is certainly strangely phrased. The version I got from another member was that the content of the talk was to be about a proposed feature that may not actually end up in Rust (in my view it likely would not), and having that be the keynote talk would imply to a lot of people that it would end up in Rust and put the language in an uncomfortable position where something other than the feature's merit would be push…
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It seems like the problem here is not even power of one group, but an individual doing an end run around the group.
>> It seems like the problem here is not even power of one group, but an individual doing an end run around the group. If so where is the transparency and accountability? Who was the individual? Why did they do what they did? If they do not represent project leadership, what will be done to fix this situation and prevent similar problems in the future? If they do represent project leadership, why weren't the changes…
The accountability must happen and shouldn't be ignored, and I hope that various parties step forward to handle the mea culpa responsibly, but it's a bit early to grab the pitchforks, light the torches and march to the town square.
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Not sure there's a real connection between the languages at least when it comes to "drama". Especially considering JavaScript is the most used language, or at least in the top 5 at this rate due to how low the entry barrier is for serious use. So purely from numbers, there's bound to be a bunch with a background in JavaScript, as with any other new language. You could have also said the same thing about Python for th…
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The media hates him, and I can understand how that can be hard to separate out from one's view of reality; but, I think whether Elon has success despite actually being terrible as some might think, or is actually really good at what he does, he's been very successful on the whole if you can be the slightest bit objective. So, given that, you would have to claim to know, really know, that it's all despite him to say h…
Correlation != causation. It's clear that his success is in spite of himself, not because of it. I don't know anyone in my professional circle that would work under him, what with having a reputation for impulse firing people that disagree with you and other clear signs of egomania.
If leadership isn't the causal factor then what is the causal factor?
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Fair point, and one I needed to reflect on. I think in my past, whenever I've been in a leadership position over a group of people, we've all been there to achieve some goal. We were all cooperating to reach the same end -- and those with a different opinion of that "end" were excluded. I have also been on the opposite side of this: I've been a member of groups whose goals I did not agree with. And no amount of civil…
Something you may have missed here. What if the shared goal and belief of the group, was one that in practice is also exclusionary? In that sense, even if the tone stays civil in group, the problem is still there.
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> Let me flip your quote back on you: how can intelligent people still believe in unbiased meritocracy being the default? Very few people I think would argue that systems based on meritocracy have zero bias. This is not the point. The point is that today’s conventional wisdom by the progressive left is that these biases must be resolved by a system of affirmative action where every sub culture or group somehow is pro…
The person in question called out bias and then asked what could be done.
That’s exactly the same as you suggested. The person I replied to then spun that out as reverse racism.
Which is a very common tactic to squash actual discussion on the topic of biases in the industry.
My guess is that it wouldn't have conquered every arena of computing outside of desktop computing like it has.
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If (2) was a core piece, then having worked on enough open source projects I can assure you that informal code of conduct didn't do shit. ;P