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We are advocating better regulation to prevent this from happening in the future. It's in the petition.

You really have this non-answer thing down. If the business thing doesn't pan out you could certainly pivot to politics.

Agreed, and it's kinda crazy that someone as respected as him is choosing to die on this hill.

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#592

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The bailout would most likely benefit the VCs and their funds. It’s not about helping employees who might be living paycheck to paycheck.

Regardless, there are people in this world living on 30 USD per month (or less). I don't care you chose to pay 8k rent per month. This is the wakeup call so many people needed.

Why would this be the wakeup call, and why are you arguing for fucking over employees that are making what is a median salary for their region? I'm not pro-bailout either but regular employees are about the least-deserving of the fall-out from this.

Re: Urgent: Sign the petition now

#593

Did an admin just edit the title from: "YC is asking for a bailout" to: "Urgent: Sign the petition now" ??

It's very common. The guidelines ask to use the original title https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html , and the mods usually enforce it. Someone even made a tracker https://hackernewstitles.netlify.app/

I don't like neither title. If I has infinite power, I'd use the other part of the title, something like "Petition: Thousands of startups and hundreds of thousands of startup jobs are at risk"

Re: Urgent: Sign the petition now

#594

Might seem like an ahole but can't you guys making 100k+ per year ride it out? We are talking about startup a here, have we forgotten the risks and implications that come with this model?

Should developers really be paid $300k a year? Why is it so high compared to a career manager in a bank who will cap out at $120k, after wrecking his health with cocaine to sustain the incredible pace for 25 years? This crisis may make deflation happen, if developer salaries deflate.

Should CEOs really be paid tens of millions a year?

Re: Urgent: Sign the petition now

#595

YC has taken significant positions in their portfolio companies, which they rightfully boast are worth something like a collective $140B. They've also strongly encouraged their portfolio founders to use SVB, which made sense until the precise moment it didn't. What I don't understand is why YC itself doesn't allocate what appears to be a painful but survivable amount of its profits and bail out its own portfolio comp…

surely you're not suggesting that bailing out companies they've invested in should be considered part of the a giving pledge? how would that be at all philanthropic? that's just self-interest.

You are correct to point out that a straight read of my comment sounds like madness. I am going to edit to decrease my dripping sarcasm.

FWIW, my thought process (I should leave being a comedian to comedians) is that this is sort of like kids asking for their inheritance early.

Re: Urgent: Sign the petition now

#596
Kind of crazy that the approach that's being taken here is a change.org-style petition. I would have expected that these people have connections much higher up and wouldn't have to publicly grovel like this.

Re: Urgent: Sign the petition now

#597
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You are in the top 1% and you are asking for a government bailout. Everyone knows that amounts over $250K were not insured. These are not "innocent depositors". A lot of my portfolio companies are affected, but I will not lobby for a government bailout on their behalf. It's not the right thing to do. I 100% agree with you on lobbying for an expedient process, but if these companies have to take a haircut, they have t…

> Everyone knows that amounts over $250K were not insured. This is technically true, but I think there's a feeling that traditional banks are de-facto safe places to keep money. Depositors losing money in bank runs feels like a 19 20's problem.

Because 2008 was so long ago? What were the CFOs of these companies doing.

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Startups have been anything but “socialized losses”. They’ve literally been the growth engine of the country for the past twenty years. According to Brookings, “Annually, venture investment makes up only 0.2% of GDP, but delivers an astonishing 21% of U.S. GDP in the form of VC-backed business revenues.” https://www.brookings.edu/research/as-the-venture-capital-ga...

What growth engine? How many tech companies founded in the last 15 years are actually consistently profitable? The only one that comes to mind of note is AirBnb even if just started turning a profit.

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What is the incentive for someone to buy SVB? Just to stop the spread of contagion or is there any scenario in which that was a profitable move?

If you're well-capitalized, so you can weather the bank run, and have time, you might be able to sell SVB's assets for more than their liabilities.

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Who cares if it's 99% of GDP of that is going into the hands of venture capitalists?

Anyone who has really looked at the 2nd order effects. SV-style tech startups distribute more equity to employees than any other sector of business I know of and the average VC’s returns are worse than private equity, worse than the stock market and worse than real estate. You only hear about the biggest winners, but venture capitalists are taking on very long odds and the vast majority lose. More importantly, we all…

> such as this wonderful phone I’m typing this comment into that can access and search nearly any encyclopedia, map or song in the world in seconds, from almost anywhere.

Cell phones were not created by tech startups.

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