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GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by Unknoob »

luckman212 wrote: post #584
generalk wrote: post #421

Regardless of what you think of Teams -- I myself have had nothing but poor experiences over 2.5 years of using it daily -- it's telling that Microsoft has to require folks to use Teams. I'm sure this is just Microsoft unifying everyone on the same comms platform, but seriously, I don't know anyone who chooses Teams. I know non-tech folks who chose Outlook 365 because of familiarity and then end up on Teams because i…

It's boring reading comments like these. Really? 2.5 years of " nothing but poor experiences"? I have to ask: what the hell is wrong with your computer? I started using Teams heavily in 2020 and yes, back then it was unequivocally the worst of the bunch. But I've seen it make great strides, and it's been many months, perhaps years since I've really had any problems with it. Audio, video, screen sharing, PSTN dial-in,…

Or maybe people just have different experiences?

I ran teams on a fairly powerful i9-equipped MacBook Pro and it was unbearable. Couldn't even scroll up to older messages without it freezing up, the integrations with Office 365 were also really slow.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by bombcar »

Jcowell wrote: post #570
bombcar wrote: post #505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am starting to fear that I am missing out on something major, because we've used Teams for years now and it works fine (on macOS) for what we do - basic chat, multiplayer powerpoint, some video calling, etc. Maybe it's a team size thing, and Teams just blows monkey chunks when you're one of fifty thousand employees at a company?

It’s been a year since I’ve used teams but my biggest gripe is search. Conversations are contextual. My work often requires me to find conversations that happens months ago. When unused Skype I could god into my email and recover it that way. With teams , back when I used it, you could search no problem. What you couldn’t do is go back to a conversation and get the context. I’m not sure how on earth you ship a search…

This may be the key - I use it as a chat program and rarely if ever search or go back more than a day

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by dotnet00 »

generalk wrote: post #421

Regardless of what you think of Teams -- I myself have had nothing but poor experiences over 2.5 years of using it daily -- it's telling that Microsoft has to require folks to use Teams. I'm sure this is just Microsoft unifying everyone on the same comms platform, but seriously, I don't know anyone who chooses Teams. I know non-tech folks who chose Outlook 365 because of familiarity and then end up on Teams because i…

I get the option between Teams, Skype and Zoom. Teams by far is the best of the bunch, even on Linux. Skype is just a complete non-starter and Zoom's UI is so horrible it's surprising the company is valued as high as it is.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by iblaine »

Same thing happened at LinkedIn after the Microsoft acquisition. LinkedIn was using gmail, Google was quick to let the g suite contract die, so the timeline to move from gmail to Outlook was accelerated. Engineers at LinkedIn were livid about being forced to move off gmail.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by hackmiester »

Kwpolska wrote: post #350
hackmiester wrote: post #318

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My org does not use Teams at all. But I get invited to external Teams meetings sometimes. As a result, Teams is on my computer, adds itself to the startup items, then opens up to a login window every time I turn on my computer. The X button does not work to close the window. I have to open Task Manager and kill it every time. I can disable it in startup items, but it puts itself back there, next time I join a Teams m…

You can use Teams from your browser, no need to install it.

I will try that next time. I don't think that occurred to me because the Zoom app experience is very good. What I have been doing instead is joining from the Teams app on my phone unless I must share content.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by cozzyd »

samiru wrote: post #196
revscat wrote: post #147

To everyone at GitHub: I’m so sorry. I don’t mean this in a clever way, either. Teams is awful and it will make your lives worse to one degree or another.

I wonder if those who complain about Teams actually use it. They might not. My company forces us to use Google Chat. I would take Teams any day.

Teams is terrible on Linux. Maybe it sucks less on other platforms. Academia standardized on zoom+slack in like 2016 in part because of excellent cross-platform support.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by 50yearsold »

Webex/Outlook/Teams/Zoom/Slack/Gmail - None of these are any inferior or superior to each other (maybe not at the start when the product was launched - there could be big feature/usability gap - but once they are matured which most of these - not much differentiators to matter) and literally none of these products to be used at any corporations are evaluated by their technical or usability excellence - it is simply vetoed or decided by the corporation CEO know which vendor's CEO/CFO well and what both companies agree to barter (use my product and in exchange I will use your product in my company kind of thing). For a end user in any company - unless you are super advance user or some niche feature - any of these software should just work well for day to day usage.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by brink »

iblaine wrote: post #594

Same thing happened at LinkedIn after the Microsoft acquisition. LinkedIn was using gmail, Google was quick to let the g suite contract die, so the timeline to move from gmail to Outlook was accelerated. Engineers at LinkedIn were livid about being forced to move off gmail.

> Engineers at LinkedIn were livid about being forced to move off gmail.

Is that really worth being livid over? Outlook is fine. I left gmail a few years ago and haven't looked back. I survived.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by djha-skin »

Unpopular opinion number one: Teams is not that bad. At least it can do video calls properly which is not something I would say of Slack.

Unpopular opinion number two: Pidgin was better and I don't why we all decided as an industry to go to these ridiculously heavy memory hog electron based clients. I use Slack from Pidgin to this day: https://github.com/dylex/slack-libpurple

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by rjzzleep »

dagmx wrote: post #173
eganist wrote: post #153

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> Because it's by far the worst laughs in WebEx

I will take a meeting in WebEx any day over a meeting in Teams. Teams has the worst layouts for the videos, moves UI elements to inconvenient places, often has more stuttering… WebEx is clunky but far superior at what it’s meant to do.

Moreover WebEx actually works ok for external consultants or service providers. Yes it's ugly, but it actually works. I've never had as many people involved as long with WebEx to finally allow joining a call after Enterprise IT just decided to implement a half baked DLP solution.

Welcome to Microsoft, where data loss prevention somehow means that your service provider isn't allowed to share his services with you in Teams.

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